Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[xsmommy]

i totally agree. i have great sympathy for her.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

The father reminded of what is termed, "a cat on a a hot tin roof." This being evident when kinesis is applied to his persona. NSNR

[af_vet_1981]

I feel nothing for these people.Where is Natalee ? She is the same age as my daughter and many of my daughter's friends have gone there.Where is Natalee ?

My sentiments exactly

[sarasota]

Holy smokes! No wonder Beth is so adamant about her being alive, if true.

[sarasota]

Yes, I heard Beth or her sister say that they're moving her around--this was also mentioned by an Aruban guy whose name escapes me.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Foolish like klintoon, trying to re-write his legacy of corruption, treason, rape, and links to murders. NSNR

[maggief]

I'm watching the tape this morning and now there's no cut. AvdS says her husband was deep asleep, and didn't hear anything.

http://www.foxnews.com/

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Yes, they opened a Bama can of "Whip Ass." "We Dare Defend Our Rights." NSNR

[Quilla]

Good morning. Since I generally freep during the day, it is almost impossible to keep up with the volume of posts generated through the night. Thank you sarasota for pointing out TexKat's interesting post - I would have missed it otherwise.

As a mom, I want to believe Natalee is still alive and am encouraged every time I hear Beth Twitty mention kidnapping. The "tailor of Birmingham" adds to my hope. Prayers for Natalee and her family and my sincere thanks to those keeping this thread full of informative snips.

[demkicker]

Goodmorning, TexKat! This information in your post from Riehl World got me thinking:

[The second observation will sound like gossip, which basically, it is - please take that into account. If it didn't come through an extremely reliable source on the island, I would not mention it at all.

In talking with an adult professional from Aruba who knew Joran, the individual stated that Joran often bragged to him of his many "sexual conquests" resulting from the use of an illicit substance slipped into a woman's drink and the Aruban individual suggested Joran was a "psychopath."]

Remember in mamma sloots interview with Greta, she mentioned that they had to keep warning Joran to keep his mouth shut at school? He was evidently trashing Natalee and acting pretty cocky. I'd have to check the interview again, but didn't she say they had to continually warn Joran to quit talking about Natalee to others?

Now that daddy sloot is locked up, I would like for our Fox News hounds to track down some of the kids to which Joran ran his mouth about Natalee. Hopefully, the authorities have called several of his schoolmates in to tell what Joran said to them about Natalee, but I haven't heard that reported.

If Joran did slip something into Natalee's drink, he probably had to brag about it to some of his buds. One would think that these kids would be willing to tell the truth about Joran now that they've gotten to see what happens to those that lie about Natalee's disappearance.

It would be nice if the adult Aruban professional (quoted above) would go public and "On the Record" (no pun intended) to confirm the statement above. If Joran is a psychopath and really does drug girls for sex, I want this information to be made public!

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to hear any specific details of a sexual nature, just whether or not he bragged about slipping something into Natalee's drink, or any other girl's drink. If this information is nothing but a rumor, then its time to put it to rest once and for all. If it's true, then the public deserves to know that Joran is a first class creep at best.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

It is a very sad tragedy for all involved. I believe many have forgotten, "discipline perceived is discipline achieved."

This scenario would be very difficult for any parent to remain sane. NSNR

[bonfire]

I think you've hit on it!

[bonfire]

Their stations at work don't make them sound rich or famous to me!

[bonfire]

Then why bring in cadaver dogs if this is what they believe?

[sarasota]

Good Morning to you, Quilla. I only freep during the day as well so I'm fortunate to be on TexKat's ping list. Perhaps you could ask her to add you. Her posts are always very revealing.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I have news for Mrs VDS, her little so called innocent son is a(Psychopath) NSNR

[maggief]

Very strange, cajungirl.

AvdS says that the Kalpoe brothers are not close friends, more like mates, of JvdS, he didn't know them that long.

Why would "just like mates" lie for JvdS, perhaps favors for PvdS?

JvdS didn't know the brothers that long yet he can call them in the middle of the night for a ride to CnC while he picks up Natalee, and then drive the two of them to another location. What's in it for the brothers?

I'm not buying the story that JvdS sneaked out. He appears to drink and gamble with dad. Dad seems to have a different set of rules than mom.

Additionally, if someone approached the house late at night wouldn't that alert the dogs?

[sarasota]

I think the Holloways are covering all their bases, just in case the kidnapping thing is a ruse. Could be a crank ransom; I mean, what assurances do they have that it's the real deal?