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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: Pepper777
I think, they might believe the Dad of Juran is the King Pin in this case.

And I think media interest (public interest) in the case was hit or miss at the beginning. Now it is a storm ... and could be the deciding factor in my opinion.

501 posted on 06/23/2005 9:59:23 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: brigette
The use of GHB would make IT premeditated?

How long does it take GHB, etc. to kick in. Could one still walk around as normal as Natalee's friends stated that she was when leaving C&C.

502 posted on 06/23/2005 9:59:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggiefluffs
Transmission fluid inside the car??? That seems strange in light of the Mom of the two brothers, saying her son was so particular about his car.

Maybe this is the thing Deepak had to "fix" (work on) after he got home from work. Maybe he has worn out his transmission in his car and need to put some fluid in it.
503 posted on 06/23/2005 10:00:03 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: bluepistolero

your thinking of anti-freeze


504 posted on 06/23/2005 10:01:10 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: Howlin; bluepistolero
...Prosecutors office spokesperson Mariane Croes...

Just how incestuous is this island?

Is Mariane Croes any relation to Steve Croes, the arrested disc jockey?

505 posted on 06/23/2005 10:01:25 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Howlin; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Riehl World:

senor:

I know personally know or have met every Birmingham person bird mentioned in her post(except I am not sure which tailor she is referring to). I have heard of nothing even close to that story. Like everyone here, I hope there is some truth to that story, but it surely isn't reaching my circles. FWIW

Posted by: Bullshark | June 23, 2005 10:44 PM

506 posted on 06/23/2005 10:02:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: bluepistolero

Oh wow!! That could be what happened too. Yikes.


507 posted on 06/23/2005 10:02:36 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat
the holloway family has already paid a ransom to natalee's captors

No, they haven't. They know more than likely their daughter is dead. The only reason they aren't going to admit it on camera is because they are having a hard time just getting up each morning. They have to have hope or they couldn't go on. They are trying to focus on finding Natalee and taking her home (they really mean her body). They would be overjoyed to find Natalee alive but it's not really expected. What you don't see on camera is Natalee's family falling apart which they do in privacy at night when everyone else goes to bed. The face you see on camera is pure determination.

The search team starts tomorrow. The family will be having a tougher time once they start searching. They are expecting to find her. Juran had better hope he did a damn good job of getting rid of the body as should his father.

508 posted on 06/23/2005 10:02:50 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: TexKat

GHB will kill you if your given enough of it - Google it - it is pretty scary stuff. They may have gave her too much. It also can be made at home. Deepak may have dealt in GHB.


509 posted on 06/23/2005 10:02:59 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: brigette

Very good questions. It's tempting to latch onto internet conspiracies. But I do hope she is alive.


510 posted on 06/23/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Is Mariane Croes any relation to Steve Croes, the arrested disc jockey?

She says that she is not. Croes is as common as Smith.

511 posted on 06/23/2005 10:03:29 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

as little as 5 minutes and as long as 30 minutes, but he could have gave her several does while in the car. They may have had some booze with them in the car or even just a soda.

It takes very little of it to kill some women depending on their size and their reaction to it.


512 posted on 06/23/2005 10:05:01 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: brigette

Yes, that too. Transmission fluid is mostly mineral oil, but is also toxic if swallowed.


513 posted on 06/23/2005 10:05:17 PM PDT by bluepistolero
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No, but I understand that name is as common as "Smith" is in this country.


514 posted on 06/23/2005 10:06:30 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I just cannot get over this "premeditated murder" charge.

Do you know if any of Natalee's family has heard about the premeditated murder charges? Did they mention anything about it?

515 posted on 06/23/2005 10:07:00 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No, they went over this on Greta. Croes is a common name in Aruba.


516 posted on 06/23/2005 10:07:10 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: TexKat; bluepistolero
According to first reports the decapitated man's wife worked nights at one of the Aruba hotels.

That's interesting.

"First reports" are often the most accurate.

517 posted on 06/23/2005 10:07:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: brigette

You're right, Brigette. Too much can kill.


518 posted on 06/23/2005 10:08:25 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat

I haven't heard of premeditated murder charges and can't find anything about it in the news. Is something going on as to charges?


519 posted on 06/23/2005 10:09:16 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: TexKat

I do not know, Tex; I was in and out tonight; my husband came home a day early, dang it!


520 posted on 06/23/2005 10:09:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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