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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: TexKat

Thanks for posting that; I'd hoped we'd see it on television.

'Nite...see you all tomorrow.


4,701 posted on 06/29/2005 7:15:55 PM PDT by Peach
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To: All

I hope you all are watching Greta on FOX


4,702 posted on 06/29/2005 7:20:43 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Natalee Holloway a wòrdu asesiná ? (2)

Latest developments in The Netherlands (Thursday) Hasibokos.com followed NOVA again on Wednesday as they interviewed chief prosecutor Karin Janssen. She commented on the interview that Anita and Paul van der Sloot gave the day before. In Tuesday’s interview Anita van der Sloot told the reporter that Joran has been facing (mentally) brutal interrogation sessions. She told NOVA that , as has already been reported, they called Joran a murderer and threaten to physically hurt him (if only the law permitted that.).

Anita also said that the picture of Natalee had been shoved in Joran’s face a few times With regard to this declaration Janssen told the reporter that the interrogations are conducted lawfully. She said that all interrogations are being recorded so, if it comes to it, in court the judge can see for himself how all interrogations have been conducted. She added that naturally they try to put as much pressure as possible on suspects but it is all within limits of the law. She also admitted that pictures of Natalee were shown to the suspects, but said that it was normal for pictures to be used/shown during the interrogation process. In yesterday’s interview Paul van der Sloot said that he did not instruct the young suspects not to talk, but explained the judicial procedure to them so that they would know what to expect and not panic. With regard to this statement Janssen said that through their investigation they learned that Paul van der Sloot told the boys a few days after the disappearance of Natalee (not to worry because) there is no crime without a body and consequently there will be no case. So Paul allegedly said something like : “No body, no crime”, and Janssen is certain that this has affected the investigation drastically and caused the suspects to keep their mouths sealed because they know that as long as nothing is found they can’t be blamed for anything. Finally she said that they are at a crucial point in the investigation and hope for a breakthrough soon. (Video not yet available)

4,703 posted on 06/29/2005 7:20:44 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: cajungirl

OMG!! If I were Beth and Jug Twitty I don't know if I could resist vigilante justice. THIS IS INCREDIBLE!! The Judge is BOUGHT and PAID FOR!! This is making me crazy. I need to take this to the Lord or I'll blow up.


4,704 posted on 06/29/2005 7:21:27 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TexKat

VS the younger, if those pics show what I think they show, is "holding up" well. He isn't going to talk. He looks a little excited at the camera being on him.

I feel nauseous.


4,705 posted on 06/29/2005 7:22:54 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

Well with God's help EquaSearch may just come up with that "corpus delecti" tomorrow!! THEN we will see if Mr. the SNOOTS are so cocky. I CANNOT believe that this man is allowed to visit. He should be a resident himself. This thing STINKS to high Heaven. Right God?!!


4,706 posted on 06/29/2005 7:24:51 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

On Greta,,this guy croes says Joran says "nat came on to him",,


4,707 posted on 06/29/2005 7:25:42 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

Joran says Nat was drinking and drugging.

Of course Joran wasn't doing drugs, just drinking.

Bastard.


4,708 posted on 06/29/2005 7:26:26 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

I agree. We NEED to do something. Aruba NEEDS to know that this is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Actually, if the will was there, the American Government and the American vacationers could withhold BILLIONS of Dollars from this Island. It must be stressed that Mothers and Fathers in America and Canada and other place do NOT tolerate their child being disposed of then just walk away because this little Island "REFUSES" to do Justice. This is a wicked place. The WHOLE world should know this.


4,709 posted on 06/29/2005 7:29:53 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage
OMG!! If I were Beth and Jug Twitty I don't know if I could resist vigilante justice. THIS IS INCREDIBLE!! The Judge is BOUGHT and PAID FOR!!

It need not be the Twittys.

Since the judge from the other island is fixed, the island must suffer so much that the people of that island see justice is done.

4,710 posted on 06/29/2005 7:29:58 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: TexKat
they learned that Paul van der Sloot told the world that if he and the boys disappear and there is no body there is no case
4,711 posted on 06/29/2005 7:31:39 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: brigette

Brigette, I also saw that clip. However, your photos have captured the hedious smirk on his face, that I didn't see on the TV.

Thanks so much for the photos.


4,712 posted on 06/29/2005 7:32:11 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: gg188

Unbelieveable LOL!!


4,713 posted on 06/29/2005 7:32:42 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: cajungirl
Haven't read that post yet but am watching Mark Furman on Fox as we speak. I used to think Mark was a Nazi...but I do trust him for the truth..

Check it out. Don't know what it all means.

4,714 posted on 06/29/2005 7:33:37 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: cajungirl

Last night, Beth showed Greta Natalee's billfold. Beth said Natalee had no credit cards and had a bunch of one dollar bills to tip with. So I'm wondering how did Natalee lose enough money gambling to want Juran to help her recoup her loses?

The Croes fellow Greta interviewed earlier today, just told Greta that's part of what Juran said early the morning of May 31 when he , LE, and Beth and Jug went back to the VDS's to find Juran.

Juran is quite the liar.


4,715 posted on 06/29/2005 7:37:42 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: brigette

Charles Croes told Greta the same story that Deepak had in that e-mail message about Natalee losing money while gambling. Why would Natalee be concerned about money, was it not hers to spend?


4,716 posted on 06/29/2005 7:38:09 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: af_vet_1981

I agree!! However it can be accomplished is good with me.


4,717 posted on 06/29/2005 7:38:54 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: auboy
The Croes fellow Greta interviewed earlier today, just told Greta that's part of what Juran said early the morning of May 31 when he , LE, and Beth and Jug went back to the VDS's to find Juran.

That story is also in an e-mail that Deepak had sent to one of his friends that is in circulation on the net.

4,718 posted on 06/29/2005 7:40:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: brigette

" I cannot believe that LE only took one statement from PVDS and they did not interrogate him at all."

I was shocked when I heard they did NOT interrogate PVDS. No wonder the judge released him. Good grief, they aren't interesting in even pretending they are trying to get at the truth.


4,719 posted on 06/29/2005 7:41:46 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat; brigette
Charles Croes told Greta the same story that Deepak had in that e-mail message about Natalee losing money while gambling. Why would Natalee be concerned about money, was it not hers to spend?

NH may have not lost any money. Possibly, it was simply a ruse to introduce herself to a young dutch boy...

4,720 posted on 06/29/2005 7:42:57 PM PDT by Big Jake
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