Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[justche]

mark

[Dolphy]

It could be that the VDS's became hostile from day one after being approached by the Twittys and friends and considered them as those crazy cowboy Americans.

I suppose, especially him telling his son that he didn't have to answer their questions in the middle of the night. But I don't think that being angry accounts for his sweating and general demeanor when he was with Beth and Greta.

To each our own interpretation :)

[onyx]

Good research Bridgette, but the Aruban government wouldn't be "that" dumb. The requirements are much like the Cayman Islands. Even when extensions are denied, all one need do is fly to US soil and return right away with another return ticket in hand.

[TexKat]

Can someone tell me the correct spelling of this guy's name so I can do a search?

Renee Van Heyningen.

The only info that I have found on this is at Riehl World, Hasibokos. com., Scared Monkeys and a one time audible Fox News report on the day it happened.

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Things to do... (you and I ?)

Find out about the cell service on the island - how many cell towers on the island - were are they located - find out about how advance the cell service is.

[demkicker]

Jug was asking for the US to pressure the Dutch govt. for help. If they've contacted Sen. Shelby, surely he'll make a few heavy phone calls. This has really opened up a can of worms for Aruba's island paradise image.

I think I'll call Selby's office myself tomorrow and request that he help them & ask if he's doing so already.

[TexKat]

I've never heard exactly how many people were in that 'group' but it struck me as an odd & not too smart way to approach the situation.

Beth, Jug, 3 friends of Jugs, 4 Arubans and 2 Aruban LE officers.

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Not that easy in Aruba - I didn't post it but they won't allow you back for 6 month or a year if you are the island for 90 days or more. Google it

[RememberTheAlamo]

Renee Van Heyningen

Thank you! That's definitely not the same I used in the earlier search, so maybe now I can find something.

[TexKat]

Jossy Mansur told Greta that more arrests are expected.

[elli1]

Cellular roaming service and GSM capabilities are normal in Aruba. Please contact your local service provider about the features before traveling to Aruba.

Setar N.V. and Digicel have Kiosks and help desk at the arrival hall at the airport in order to provide more information.

Link

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I would expect no less from the "Team Hate America." They like our tourists dollars, but not us.

Status Quo as usual. This charade of this investigation will be drawn out by Aruba's finest in hopes the Holloway's will give up and return home.

The three other perps will walk per Judge(paid for)saying there is no evidence or insufficient evidence to connect them to the crime.

We need to make an example of Aruba and the Dutch people. American blood does not come cheap.

Maybe the state department and the President can take time out from kissing the muslims/illegal aliens asses long enough, to put some heat on this debacle of justice in Aruba.

I have never been impressed with anything Dutch. Prudent people can all see why.

I believed the same as you Gary, from day one. Highspeed LE, let the three perps go on the first day. They were so efficient, the three perps got 10-11 days to destroy evidence that would put this puzzle together.

The Aruban/Dutch collusion team at it's best. NSNR

[elli1]

Thank you. Seven people too many, IMO.

['61 Libertarian]

Wow, Arlene Ellis-Schippers is hot! Bring her back more often.

['61 Libertarian]

Wow, Arlene Ellis-Schippers is hot! Bring her back more often.

[TexKat]

Wow, Arlene Ellis-Schippers is hot! Bring her back more often.

LOL. I was waiting for that one, especially after the posts regarding Mariaine Croes.

I think Schippers looks better and a little more mature.

['61 Libertarian]

Did I say that twice? I guess so. I used to live in the Netherlands on two separate occasions. It's obvious that the laws are quite different than in the U.S. Can someone in the U.S. be held for a lengthy period of time based upon suspicion only? Don't they have to be charged? I think that in this case, the Netherlands laws may better serve justice. Also, they don't have juries, only judges.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

The Dutch government had to send in their, (Fixer Judge)to get this sh-t straight on the low low.NSNR

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http://www.digicelaruba.com/products/product.php?product_display=digichat

Digicel Aruba has...

Digichat

digiCHAT is a new and innovative text based service from Digicel that’s easy to use and great fun. digiCHAT allows users ‘chat’ with up to 30 other users in chat rooms using their Digicel mobile phone.

It is based on a series of commands that are sent as an SMS message and sent to 2428 (CHAT)

more info at link...

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http://www.digicelaruba.com/coverage/map_large.php (coverage map)

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General Packet Radio Service (GPRS)

What is GPRS?
The General Packet Radio Service (GPRS) is a new value added service offered by Digicel that allows information to be sent and received across a mobile telephone network. Digicel’s GPRS solution brings a range of new services to subscribers. This technology enables us to offer you various services through your phone eg. surfing the Internet & sending and receiving pictures.

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Products & Plans
http://www.digicelaruba.com/products/