Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[spectre]

AND it's possible that none of these people will ever confess, which is where we are right now.

sw

[hershey]

I was going cross-eyed.

[Otta B Sleepin]

I do think they believed the body behind the cemetary was a suicide.

They're saying the man who was partially decapitated was a suicide?

[Jaded]

mark

[Elmer Gantry]

I was talking today with a woman whose daughter had been to Aruba a year ago. She was assaulted and went to the police. They asked her why she was wearing so little clothing, why she didn't have a male escort with her. The attitude of the police was that she was a complete fool to be walking around half naked without a husband or boyfriend to protect her. You look at how American teenage girls dress like Britney Spears and think they are just advertising for some creep to assault them.

[stlnative]

It is older news.

Actually Papiamento might be pretty easy to learn because of all the spanish in it. - but I butcher the english language pretty much already.

[hershey]

Since under Aruban law, they can keep them in jail for a considerable time before charging them with a crime, you'd think a 17 or 18 or even someone 21 would break after a while. The ex cops/feds who were on Fox earlier today seemed to think a confession was only a matter of time. And maybe that's why the FBI sent one of their guys home today, they knew enough inside stuff to feel the LE were on the right track and capable of wrapping this up. If and when they charge one or more with murder and have a confession of sorts, it would be more diplomatic if the FBI were off island.

[hershey]

That's so true. The way American teenagers dress, even in school, is appalling. Cleavage and belly buttons everywhere.

[shield]

I don't know if Greta"s interview had any input in the arrest of Paulus unless the Aruba LE viewed it prior to last night.

Oh come on guys....that's just FoxNews hyping it up, it had nothing to do with Greta's interview....

So let's put 2 & 2 together....bet ya' it came from Natalee's Mom's 90 minute conversation with Joran's parents. Beth gleened some info then she gave it to either the police or her Aruban Attorney ... anyway it was turned over to the police. That's why she didn't keep the 3PM appointment yesterday...she knew what was probably up and knew she'd gotten an or some inconsistencies from Joran's Dad.

[TexKat]

Thank you for the translation maggiefluffs.

[Otta B Sleepin]

Did either one of you all happen to pick up some food for my cats and dogs? :-)

Well, I had to go out again, but sorry, didn't buy any animal food (I bought dog food yesterday, though).

Can't wait to catch up on this thread and see what I missed this time.

[hershey]

Almost eight o'clock, the witching hour, at which point Papa VDS is released, or not. If not, the heat ratchets up, and poor Mrs. VDS has a nervous breakdown.

[maggief]

Watching Nancy Grace ...

[TexKat]

That's so true. The way American teenagers dress, even in school, is appalling. Cleavage and belly buttons everywhere.

I could not believe this young lady at work today. I really appreciate the fact that a lot of companies today have the business casual dress code. If you are female and work within a corporate office you know it is much nicer to be a bit relaxed. However you at times find some individuals that take advantage and could spoil it for everyone.

Well this particular young lady was wearing a pair of hiphugger slacks, and a top that stopped above her belly button.

[stlnative]

watching O'reilly - Greta was just on - clip coming up from Greta's show for tonight. - Greta said that Beth was even more suspicious of the Dad after the 90 minute meeting with him and his wife.

[TexKat]

Watching Nancy Grace ...

Why is it that the US media knows more than the parents?

[maggief]

Sad, isn't it?

Switched to Fox ... Greta on BOR.

[TexKat]

Do you think that Grace's show is going to make it? I wonder why they put her on opposite O'Reilly?

[maggief]

I think she'll make it somewhere. Her numbers are better than Paula Zahn's, not great but better.

[stlnative]

Greta says the boys said they were trying to help Joran with the HI story. But that they took Joran and natalee right to the beach and dropped them off. (more tonight on Greta show)