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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: af_vet_1981
There seem to be a few of those posts accepting it as a given that Natalee was taken to an after hours Rave Party.

I still am waiting to hear more of Frances Ellen Byrd who in a Scarborough interview stated that she saw Natalee at the hotel after they had left C&C at 1ish a.m. on 5/30.

3,061 posted on 06/27/2005 4:15:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
And what you posted that Geraldo was ranting and raving about was already known. Its been posted in articles and threads for days here now.

Sorry you're so disappointed with my post. I knew I wasn't posting anything earth shattering or necessarily new, but that's the point. What we've all known has been "posted in articles and threads", not necessarily heard on a popular radio program. It's high time, IMO, for some outspoken condemnation of the Aruban authorities for their incompetency.

Out of respect for NH's parents and fear of making a bad situation even worse, criticism has pretty well been kept in check. Now that the judge released PVDS, it appears that the gloves are finally coming off. It's obvious that NH's parents & family are finally so fed up that they're no longer bothering keeping up the pretense of their 'confidence' in this pathetic investigation.

3,062 posted on 06/27/2005 4:18:15 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: the Deejay; johnb838
I fear Nat has been bumped from the news cycle.

IMHO, this is what the powers-that-be in Aruba are waiting on... Dragging this thing out until it is no longer in the US news---then they can dispose of the matter as they see fit. They just had no idea it would get this much attention from US media.

3,063 posted on 06/27/2005 4:19:13 PM PDT by gg188
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
TexKat did the prosecutor really mean pVDS is a (SINO)suspect in name only? NSNR

No, not in name only. M Croes, prosecutor spokes person stated that they felt as if they had enough on PVDS to at least hold him for another 8 days. However the judge did not. PVDS is still considered a suspect and prosecutors are searching for more evidence, something substancial. Possibility that he may be picked up again if more sufficient evidence is found.

3,064 posted on 06/27/2005 4:20:06 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: gg188

US media regulates what's on-air &
what's not.


3,065 posted on 06/27/2005 4:22:15 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: gg188

Over at CTV, someone is posting that the reason no media is reporting on the quarry search is because they are being held back from the site. Cell phones and other equipment messes up the divers talking to each other or some such thing. This poster gave no link. Possibly just another rumor.....


3,066 posted on 06/27/2005 4:23:58 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

That sounds resonable though


3,067 posted on 06/27/2005 4:24:51 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: gg188; the Deejay; johnb838
I fear Nat has been bumped from the news cycle. IMHO, this is what the powers-that-be in Aruba are waiting on... Dragging this thing out until it is no longer in the US news---then they can dispose of the matter as they see fit. They just had no idea it would get this much attention from US media.

What I meant is, they released Joran, Deepak and Satish that first time, hours after the disappearance, because they had NO idea the media firestorm in the U.S. I think they thought this could be dealt with within the local "good old boy" network. Tourist locales typically have an ambivalence toward tourists, especially foreigners, and certainly in this third world country wouldn't consider her life worth the careers and reps of locals.

3,068 posted on 06/27/2005 4:25:35 PM PDT by gg188
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To: the Deejay

She was surely wearing shoes and a dress though. Maybe she had more than one purse.

I've read a description of what she was wearing that night & seen a photo floating around of her in the outfit. Since they were going out drinking & dancing, would not surprise me if she didn't take a purse. I never carry a purse when we go out.

3,069 posted on 06/27/2005 4:26:33 PM PDT by elli1
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To: TexKat

Kansas now has the death penalty, but there is a clause(grandfather) that keeps BTK from it's embrace.NSNR


3,070 posted on 06/27/2005 4:26:53 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: demkicker

I'm trying to find out where the info came from....and I ooops! Not CTV....Websleuths


3,071 posted on 06/27/2005 4:27:24 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

they are being held back from the site.



Wonder why they feel they need to be NEAR the site to RE PORT that there is a search going on.......and cell phones and other equipment not allowed near the site.


3,072 posted on 06/27/2005 4:28:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I don't know.....no confirmation on where this report came from, so might be yet another dastardly rumor!


3,073 posted on 06/27/2005 4:30:39 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: demkicker
Sorry you're so disappointed with my post.

Its not your post that I'm disappointed in.

Its my disdain for Geraldo.

Geraldo did such a poor job reporting yesterday that the crew on Fox & Friends made light of him this morning.

IMHO Aruba LE, news media, spokespeople have been critized all along by everyone except the Twitty's and Holloways for the first couple of weeks.

They have been so critized at this point that this morning on Fox and Friends one of the Aruban reporters displayed that she was not interested in talking in an interview. It was pretty ugly.

3,074 posted on 06/27/2005 4:30:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: mumbo

I wonder how they [cadaver dogs] are trained for this task.

Cadaver Dog Training

3,075 posted on 06/27/2005 4:31:19 PM PDT by elli1
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To: the Deejay
I think they know that the public's memory is short. And once Nat drops out of the news cycle, the heat will be off Aruba.

Somehow reputations no matter how bad are rehabilitated, it seems.

Heck, the world's most notorious philanderer, who taught children that oral sex isn't really sex, was on stage with the world's most famous evangelist this weekend.

3,076 posted on 06/27/2005 4:31:25 PM PDT by gg188
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To: elli1
I never carry a purse when we go out.

So do I. Also, when I travel. I ususally take a couple of bags. I'll bet, like me, you also wear shoes!!!

LOL

3,077 posted on 06/27/2005 4:32:49 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: gg188

I know....I was just on that
thread..lol


3,078 posted on 06/27/2005 4:34:00 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat

Fox needs to yank Geraldo off the island and keep him off the island. He is making the situation worse. You can tell the Twitty's do not care for him also.


3,079 posted on 06/27/2005 4:34:19 PM PDT by stlnative (please do feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: TexKat

Aruban reporters displayed that she was not interested in talking in an interview. It was pretty ugly.



A gag order from the 'missed the plane' judge?


3,080 posted on 06/27/2005 4:35:21 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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