Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

Police: Judge arrested in connection with disappearance of teen in Aruba

Police: Judge arrested in connection with disappearance of teen in Aruba

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) — An Aruban judge, the father of a 17-year-old suspect in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, has also been arrested in the case, a prosecution spokesperson said Thursday.

Paul Van Der Sloot is now being viewed as a suspect in the case of Natalee Holloway, a missing 18-year-old from suburban Birmingham, Alabama, Mariaine Croes said. He was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday.

On Wednesday, Holloway's mother said more individuals "need to be pursued" in connection with the case.

Beth Holloway Twitty said she's sure the four young men in custody -- but not formally charged in the case -- have more information to divulge.

"I have no doubt that they know what and who and where and when and why and how. I have no doubt," Twitty said on NBC's "Today Show."

"The only thing I think there are some other individuals, though, that need to be pursued, and I know the local authorities are doing that and will be doing that," she added.

Twitty told CNN's "American Morning" she met Tuesday with the parents of 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot, one of the people in custody. He's one of the last people reported to have seen Holloway.

She said the Van Der Sloots invited her into their home, when she was handing out prayer cards in their neighborhood.

Twitty refused to give details about their 90-minute discussion.

"I think I walked away with the confirmation that we still have some individuals that we need to pursue," she said.

Holloway, an 18-year-old honors student from the Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook, disappeared May 30 after she left a nightclub with Van Der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, ages 21 and 18 respectively, authorities said.

She was in Aruba with about 100 classmates to celebrate their recent graduation.

The three men and a fourth suspect, 26-year-old disc jockey Steve Croes, face accusations of two counts of murder and one count of kidnapping leading to murder.

None have been formally charged, and Twitty says she has seen "no evidence whatsoever" that her daughter is dead.

Defense attorneys for Van Der Sloot and the Kalpoes have said their clients maintain their innocence.

Meanwhile, four members of a Texas-based search-and-rescue team were scheduled to arrive in Aruba late Wednesday to begin planning their search for Holloway, said Tim Miller, director and founder of Texas EquuSearch.

Members of the group will meet with Aruban government officials and Holloway's family as soon as they arrive, Miller told CNN Wednesday.

The team has been delayed because of problems getting a charter flight and permission for their four search dogs to travel to the Caribbean island, Miller said.

All elements of the team should be in place Friday, he explained, including a side-scan sonar device that can peer 800 feet down into the ocean.

Miller founded Texas EquuSearch several years after the 1984 disappearance of his own daughter. Miller's efforts to find her were frustrated by a lack of help from authorities who thought she was a runaway. She later was found murdered in Texas, according to the group's Web site.

"I know what the Holloways are going through right now ... [we're going to] try to do everything possible to locate this child," Miller said.

How did you know I'd just cleaned up a puddle? I have a friend with a doxie, George, and they'd lived on a third floor apt.. She couldn't always get him outside, so he was paper trained. Now they have a house, and he saves it until he gets indoors! God forbid he should piddle in the grass.

How did you get interested in Malinois? Such an interesting breed, and you don't see them often except in big shows. Lovely to hear what they're like, by the way, so thank you! Didn't they herd sheep at one time in Belgium or maybe still do? That would help explain that instinct to focus and also to please you. (Well, I'm speculating, having seen enough herding dogs on tv to know they're very smart and so focused on their owners.) Another friend in Vt. raises sheep and got an Australian shepherd to do the herding. Same intense focus, great dog, smart, but turned out to be allergic to grass, so that was that. She now has another Aussie and a llama to do the chores.

Greta's on Fox now laying out the timeline, who, what, when, where, and why. Tonight at 10, she's on with the interview with Mrs. Kalpoe. The Equus Search interview earlier was interesting. The gentleman they talked to was calm and matter of fact. If N was buried anywhere on that island, they'd find her. No 'if's, and's or but's'. They have an incredible success record, and amazing, since it's volunteer, but you know all that. Greta was matter of fact, too, just now, and in her own way, frightening, that calm, professional competence and experience -- describing the likely scenario and how it would play out if one or more of the suspects broke. If you were guilty, you wouldn't want her on your trail.

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according greta van susteren: paul van der sloot was much agitated during “encuentro” oranjestad (aan): in one encuentro emocional, the mother of natalee owing to confronta the parents of the sospechoso joran. as daily paper owing to divulga in his edicion of diaranzon end, cu the mother of the student desapareci of alabama, owing to acudi in oranan of afternoon at home of paul van der sloot at montaña. past owing to haci this in form of one mother desespera for achieve informacion encuanto his child natalee. although the encuentro here can show of is algo inocente, daily paper owing to achieve know cu some oficial of autoridad not owing to like the asunto here at all. the conocido presentadora greta van susteren of the declaration of policy “on the record” on fox news channel, owing to acudi at the cas of family van der sloot cu two cameraman y also cu beth holloway twitty, the mother. hour they owing to arrive abroad, is the mother beth owing to cuminza is tell “hello, anybody’s at home?”. one cacho in cura owing to come come across cu they. the mother owing to stay cu voz at high is tell cu the wanted talk cu they. diripiente the door fast of cas owing to open, y one another cacho owing to come abroad cu tail is yanga felizmente. but behind the kill can owing to see paul van der sloot is try of vigila is kende is at his cura of cas. till hour cu beth owing to revela cu the is mother of natalee, the hour numa paul owing to come fast cu braza open y march come in they direccion. here the mother beth owing to bise, cu the wanted owing to trece one carchi of oracion for paul. hour cu paul owing to arrive close, at once past owing to ofrece his hospitalidad, y invita they for bay inside. this at once owing to worde acepta door of beth y greta van susteren. but paul owing to ask for her cameranan not worde treci inside, y fox news owing to acepta esey. thing the father owing to revela now for 90 minuut largo they owing to sit at table of comedor or in cushina, y talk without stop. in his declaration of policy after, some detaye owing to worde revela door of greta van susteren. father of joran, esta paul, owing to revela, cu diadomingo night day 29 of half, for 11'or of night, his child joran owing to yame y ask for happen buske at height of mcdonald's. the hour paul owing to leave for of his cas, y bay buske y trece cas. paul here is revela, cu the not was know self cu joran owing to “slip y sali” back for of cas y bay carlos ‘n charlie’s. past owing to agrega cu this is contra reglamento of dje y of cas. paul owing to indica, cu the not know when joran owing to come back cas. besides the do not corda niether if the next morning past owing to lante for of dream, neither if joran owing to bay school self the monday ey. the mother of joran, identifica for fox news channel because; anita van der sloot, owing to declara during the 90 minuut of encuentro here, cu joran owing to bise cu they owing to immidiately descend natalee at the beach of fisherman’s hut, y they owing to bay back cas. but anita not have one splicacion con his child joran owing to arrive cas back. greta van susteren owing to revela in his declaration of policy, cu visiblemente during the encuentro, paul was agitated, y was actuate his hand constantemente. daily paper was the first medio of comunicacion at aruba y even internacional, cu owing to revela cu the motibo cu owing to let the three testigonan pound first, was for follow they pasonan via of vigilancia, tapmento of telephone, celular, y trafico of internet. now tuesday, the father of joran self owing to revela cu the tapmento of telephone is the motibo of con now the not can visit his child kende is encarcela. paul is esun, kende now owing to revela cu one some after of desaparicion of natalee, via telephone past owing to conseha his child for her stop at once y not talk of the caso more. police owing to tap the combersacion ey, y pesey fiscal owing to prohibi the father of comunica now cu his child. the mother owing to revela cu the motibo of con the father owing to conseha joran for stop of talk, is debi cu joran owing to open his mouth mucho at school, comentando y blof on the caso here, y encuanto natalee. beth holloway twitty owing to revela in his interview of monday, cu the is see joran because; one young arrogant. on this, the mother of joran owing to tell cu his child do not arrogant, but more bien the is complete 'confianza'. beth was firme hour of the encuentro, y owing to talk on the anger management of joran. but anita owing to contesta, cu esey not precisamente is the caso. the mother anita owing to revela cu joran some trip is worde interoga have trip for 11 hour largo daily, in one office frieu. cada rato, recherche is place one potret of natalee his fast, y they're yame one "asesino". all two mother owing to show of is preocupa. beth holloway twitty is convenci cu joran can give contesta in the caso here, y pesey past owing to acudi at home of family van der sloot, for try look at if the can achieve contesta of the parents. at end of the encuentro, everybody owing to leave back of the cas, y finalmente owing to gradici another, y anita y beth owing to give another one kiss.

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