Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

"''A little bit of the nightmare clouds are now disappearing,"

Hope she doesn't think the storms over.

2,521 posted on 06/26/2005 4:26:32 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

Is this woman dim or what? Nothing will ever "be fine" for Beth Holloway/Twitty.

It's like: Every man/woman for himself.

The old; I got mine!

2,522 posted on 06/26/2005 4:26:50 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

The picture you paint is bleak. Sad but so true as we know here in America with all the unsolved murders as you say. The only other thing that I can think of that would be worse ,were if Joran were to go on trial with a ton of evidence against him .Then they got a ''judge Ito'' type judge that was just in the thing for the publicity ! Joran gets off [walks free] and the mother has to live with the fact that her daughters murderer is walking free . [Like OJ] Can't figure out which scenario is worse. Poor mother of Natalee

2,523 posted on 06/26/2005 4:28:13 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA

To: txrangerette

Geraldo shows up again and everything starts to fall apart!

LOL!!

Ain't it the truth!?

I said the other day, "I sure hope Geraldo doesn't screw things up."

2,524 posted on 06/26/2005 4:28:42 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

To: Bush gal in LA

If her body doesn't show up....
no murder charges. No harm/No
foul.

I do think this is more than likely
to happen in this case.

2,525 posted on 06/26/2005 4:30:34 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

To: Diva Betsy Ross

One flaw I see in this approach is the sometimes fast-breaking changes in this story. Every time one of these consequential changes occurs, if there is not another "update" posted, the update you suggest could quickly become irrelevant in that it could be missing major info.

To make it work, seems like someone would have to repost update posts with old new info, new new info and breaking new info, all in one, and the post would get longer and longer and longer each time. Either that, or there would be multiple update posts to which you would have to direct people.

I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something.

2,526 posted on 06/26/2005 4:32:30 PM PDT by txrangerette

To: monkeywrench

By the time AVDS has hubby home,
I think she'll know joran's
chances at being released.

2,527 posted on 06/26/2005 4:32:30 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

To: txrangerette

Is Greta returning to Aruba soon?

2,528 posted on 06/26/2005 4:33:18 PM PDT by maggief

Maybe he took a cousin's name? Jenkins to Twitty.
There is a strong resemblance.

2,529 posted on 06/26/2005 4:34:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name

Please see post # 2472.

I understand your concern, but mine is an even more expansive concern, of where this might be headed with or without a body.

2,530 posted on 06/26/2005 4:37:09 PM PDT by txrangerette

To: TexKat; brigette; All

Updated timeline (SM):

Thursday, May 26
??? Natalee & MBHS group arrive in Aruba/check in at Holiday Inn SunSpree Resort
8:00 pm Soul Beach Festival casino party & after party @ Royal Cabana Casino
??? pm Some MBHS students see Joran van der Sloot in Holiday Inn Casino
Joran possibly gets into fight with at casino with one of Natalee’s cousins

Friday, May 27
3:00 am Soul Beach after party ends
am-pm MBHS group go on all-day snorkling trip
???pm MBHS Bryan Reynolds breaks up fight between Joran & MBHS kids @ Carlos’nCharlies’
7:00 pm Soul Beach Music Festival Night 1 at Entertainment Center
11:00 pm Soul Beach Festival Night 1 ends/after party begins @ Havana Night Club

Saturday, May 28
4:00 am Soul Beach after party ends
7:00 pm Soul Beach Music Festival Night 2 @ Havana Club Ampitheater
?? pm ?Joran at Holiday Inn Casino gambling?
11:00 pm Soul Beach Night 2 ends/after party begins @ Havana Night Club

Sunday, May 29
4:00 am Soul Beach after party ends
9:00 am Soul Beach daytime event @ Holiday Inn SunSpree Resort
3:00 pm Soul Beach daytime event ends
5:00 pm Paulus van der Sloot returns to Aruba from Holland
7:00 pm Soul Beach Festival Night 3 begins @ Havana Club Ampitheater/Joran attends/MBHS attends
??? pm Joran gambles at Holiday Inn casino with father/Paul leaves/Joran meets Natalie for first time?
??? pm email says Deepak gets call from Joran to pick him up at home after gets off work
10:00 pm email says Deepak off work early at cybercafe/brother Satish picks him up & go home to change
11:00 pm Soul beach festival ends (NO After Party this night)
11:00 pm Paulus picks up Joran at McDonalds near Holiday Inn to give him ride home
11:45 pm? Deepak & Satish Kalpoe pick up Joran at his house & go to Carlos’nCharlies’

Monday, May 30
12:15 am? Deepak, Satish & Joran arrive Carlos’nCharlies’
12:45 am Joran in another scuffle with MBHS kids outside Carlos’nCharlies’
1:30 am Natalee & Joran leave Carlos n Charlies in Deepak Kalpoe’s car with his brother Satish
2:00 am Deepak & Satish return home and get on computer??
2:40 am Satish’s lawyer David Kock says phone records show Joran called Deepak
Deepak says Joran tells him he is walking home, left Natalee on beach
Deepak tells Mickey John later Joran also said he would go online to talk within an hour
3:20 am Deepak says he gets text message from Joran saying he was home
6:30 am ?Records show call from one of 3 amigo’s cellphone in Santa Lucia area of Aruba?
7:50 am Joran in school bragging about sex with Natalee -- also saying she drowned??
8:30 am MBHS group meets in lobby of Holiday Inn, first notice that Natalee is missing
?? am MBHS group leaves Aruba on two flights
Chaperone stays behind and books later flight for Natalee, hoping she will show up
Chaperone contacts hotel and beach patrol to report Natalee missing
Chaperonoe thinks beach patrol is reporting disappearance to police, but they don’t
12:00 pm (11:00 am CDT) Beth Holloway Twitty in Arkansas gets news of Natalee’s disappearance
Beth Twitty leaves Arkansas & drives back to Birmingham
2:45 pm School day ends for Joran
4:00 pm Deepak email says he went to work even though in same email said he wasn’t working that day
6:30 pm (5:30 CDT) Chartered jet leaves Birmingham with Beth & Jug Twitty & friends
11:00 pm Beth, Jug & friends land in Aruba
11:00 pm Deepak email says he’s off work and calls Joran who’s at Radisson casino
11:30 pm Deepak email says he meets Joran at Radisson

Tuesday, May 31
12:00 am Beth & group learn Joran’s name and address and call police
1:00 am Beth, Jug & MB group look at Holiday Inn casino video tape
2:00 am Deepak email says he and Joran go to Wyndham casino
2:00 am Beth, Jug & MB group to van der Sloot home with police/
2:15 am Paulus says Joran at a casino/Deepak email says Paulus called them at Wyndham
2:30 am police, Paulus and MB group go to casino (Wyndham??)
3:00 am police, Paulus & MB group return to van der Sloot home/Joran& Deepak leaning on car in yard
3:15 am Joran takes group back to Holiday Inn to show where he dropped off Natalee??
3:30 am Group back to van der Sloot house
4:00 am Beth & group leave van der Sloots
7:00 am Deepak email says he goes home (says pm but must mean am)
7:50 am Joran in school?
??? Joran & Kalpoes sit around van der Sloot pool and come up with same story
2:00 pm Joran, Deepak & Satish questioned by police

Wednesday, June 1
7:50 am Joran in school?
???? Joran, Deepak & Satish again questioned by police
??? Anita van der Sloot returns to Aruba from Holland

Thursday, June 2
7:50 am Joran in school
??? Deepak email says Joran calls him in panic that Twittys are passing out flyers @ his school
2:45 pm School day ends for Joran

Friday, June 3
7:50 am Joran in school?/exams begin at International School of Aruba?
(Joran had some AP classes -- AP exams were May 2-13/no final exam req. if take AP exam)
2:45 pm School day ends for Joran

Saturday, June 4

Sunday, June 5
6:30 am Security guards Antonius “Mickey” John & Abraham Jones arrested

Monday, June 6
7:50 am Joran in school?/exams begin at International School of Aruba
2:00 pm Aruban government workers off work early to search island for Natalee
2:45 pm School day ends for Joran

Tuesday, June 7
7:50 am Joran in school?/exams at school
2:45 pm School day ends for Joran

Wednesday, June 8
7:50 am Joran in school?/last day of exams at school
2:45 pm School day ends for Joran
3:00 pm? press asks Aruban LE why 3 amigos not under arrest

Thursday, June 9
6:30 am Joran, Deepak & Satish arrested/cars, computers & other items confiscated from their homes
6:00 pm International School of Aruba senior graduation @

Friday, June 10

Saturday, June 11
Mickey John in cell next to Deepak Kalpoe
Abraham Jones in another jail building -- in a cell next to Joran van der Sloot

Sunday, June 12

Monday, June 13
11:00 pm Antonius “Mickey” John released from jail and gives press conference
John says Deepak Kalpoe told him they lied about dropping off Natalee at Holiday Inn
John says Deepak told him they dropped off Joran and Natalee at Marriott and left

Tuesday, June 14
12:30 am Abraham Jones released from jail
Jones says Joran crying in cell next to him. Joran says he’s afraid Kalpoes “setting him up”
Jones says Joran was dropped off at home first and Natalee left with Kalpoes in their car
?? am Radio station Top95FM ? asks people to dig at Marriott beach to look for Natalee
guy finds pair of women’s panties on beach and proudly shows off for media
2:00 pm? members of Aruban Law Enforcement search & dig at Marriott beach & fishermen’s huts
7:00 pm? Aruban LE end search @ Marriott after draining nearby pond

Wednesday, June 15
???pm Police search home of Joran van der Sloot
???pm Police tell Steve G. Croes they want to talk to him

Thursday, June 16
??? am Steve G. Croes goes to police station and is questioned
??? Steve G. Croes goes to work @ Tattoo boat
??? Lorenzo van Rijn questioned by police
???? Max Arendsz questioned by police

Friday, June 17
6:30 am Steve Gregory Croes arrested

Saturday, June 18
8:00 am Rene van Heyningen found murdered “Columbian necktie”
van Heyningen’s body dumped in government cemetery
??? Paulus & Anita van der Sloot questioned by police
??? Sergio Gomez reported missing

Sunday, June 19
??? Paulus & Anita van der Sloot questioned by police

Monday, June 20
??? Kalpoe brothers & Steve Croes transferred from jail to KIA prison

Tuesday, June 21
??? Joran van der Sloot transferred from jail to KIA prison
???? Beth & Greta go to van der Sloot home/talk to Paulus & Anita for 90 minutes

Wednesday, June 22
?? Paulus & Anita van der Sloot interviewed by Greta/FOX

Thursday, June 23
?? Anita van der Sloot visits Joran in prison. Father in car. Neighbor calls to say police want to talk
???pm Paulus van der Sloot goes to police station to talk & is arrested
Anita van der Sloot tells AP Joran lied when said they dropped off Natalee at Holiday Inn
she says he now admits he and Natalee were dropped off at the Marriott & were alone

Friday, June 24
??pm 24 members of Texas EquuSearch arrive in Aruba

Saturday, June 25
9:00 am?? Texas EquuSearch begins search for Natalee
Satish Kalpoe’s lawyer admits brothers lied about dropping off Natalee at Holiday Inn
now says they dropped her off at the Marriott with Joran
Judge to be flown in from Curacao/flight delayed

Sunday, June 26
8:30? am Judge arrives
9:30 am Joran & Paulus van der Sloot, Deepak & Satish Kalpoe in court
10:40 am Steve Croes in court
1:30 pm Judge orders Steve G. Croes released Monday due to lack of evidence in disappearance
6:30 pm? Paulus van der Sloot released

Monday, June 27
1:00 pm Steve G. Croes scheduled to be released

2,531 posted on 06/26/2005 4:37:52 PM PDT by maggief

To: txrangerette

No, those are valid points I am sure. I guess I didn't realize the case was moving along so fast.

I am sure there is some soulition tho- I guess separate threads for different purposes wouldn't be the answer either.

I don't know what the PTB would think of a new daily thread, so it would be easier to know whe

Where to begin every day.. seems like a lot of work as well.

What if someone posts in large letters: MONDAY ( whatever day it is) around 12:00am (or whatever time) like the last person to turn off the lights just marks the end of the day or the first person up marks the start of the day.What about that?

2,532 posted on 06/26/2005 4:40:28 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)

To: maggiefluffs

Wish I knew...Greta probably burned out as she was like a whirling dervish going night and day down there!

Of course, there is no excuse for things falling apart just because the media's legal eagle had to leave, but maybe just maybe it gives us an insight into how the prosecutors and government and media of Aruba are trying to handle this...in response to MEDIA ups and downs and ins and outs, rather than in response to a very real murder case and suspicious behavior by well-placed people.

Just a thought. Time will tell, looks like.

2,533 posted on 06/26/2005 4:43:42 PM PDT by txrangerette

On Fox it was reported that the disc jockey provided an alibi for the three guys but then the trio changed their stories. Sure sounds to me that he must be involved, and thus provide himself an alibi also - if the report is correct.

2,534 posted on 06/26/2005 4:43:55 PM PDT by Dante3

To: monkeywrench

My apologies if this has been posted already, but a Boy Scout is in fact missing in Yellowstone....this is too eerie.

5/11/2005

DREAM DRAWING

A boy scout falls into a river a drowns after hitting his head on a rock, his body will be found some distance from where he accidentally fell in, from my awful handwriting, I'm guessing that this will take place in Yellowstone National Park, this will happen in the next few days.

2,535 posted on 06/26/2005 4:44:06 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Does Anita van der Sloot suffer from Carolyn Condit syndrome?)

To: maggiefluffs

I like that timeline because it did not come from one of us here on FR and if anyone has a problem with it they can take to the poster on the Scared Monkey Forum. :-)

2,536 posted on 06/26/2005 4:46:09 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)

I agree. The most bizarre site I've run across. And the boys in the trunk prediction. Could you make out anything written on the Natalee drawing at all?

2,537 posted on 06/26/2005 4:46:52 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

To: txrangerette

Forgive my failing memory, but I think Gretawire.com stated she was trying to get home for some rest and return to Aruba on Monday. Certainly hope she returns. Scientology or not, she does what needs doin'.

2,538 posted on 06/26/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks

Most they could get the disc jockey
for is lying to LE.

Maybe that's not illegal in Aruba?
[Lying to help a friend.]

2,539 posted on 06/26/2005 4:49:19 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

To: No Surrender No Retreat

In my opinion we are dealing with a psychopath.(Joran) I have dealt with perps like him in my career. Did you ask for a refund on that sixpack candy bar deal? NSNR

I have counseled and dealt with the likes of Joran. I fully agree with your diagnosis, but most today use the term sociopath. The kid has lead such a fast life he no longer has a conscience and feelings for anyone except himself.

Reflecting back it was 5 Hersey bars, and 2 were fakes.

2,540 posted on 06/26/2005 4:49:28 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)

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