Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[monkeywrench]

She's a disruptor.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Some did & some did not stay away. Maybe the definition of (friends) has morphed to an all new meaning in today's society.

Hopefully this investgation will be completed soon? The outcome, we hope blind justice will prevail. No one above or below the law.

My allegorical perspective to this case in alluding to (Beth Hollaway) "Evil Only Triumphs When Good Men & Women Do Nothing" Beth has been a catalyst in moving this investigation along. I salute that Lady, One determined and unstoppable (American Woman) Greta is doing her part also. NSNR

[stlnative]

I forgot the /sarcasm tag

[txrangerette]

Something seems wrong about this roller coaster treatment of PVdS. One day their giddy with interest and excitement over his detention, then poof! a visiting judge rules he must be released. Is that visiting judge where the fix could possibly be in? Is that how the Arubans get out of the box they are in? Time will tell, but this roller coaster makes no sense to me, none whatsoever.

[monkeywrench]

:) I would think if she has time to disrupt, and wade through so much speculation that annoys her, she could find the time to surf.

[NCjim]

Mark for later

[txrangerette]

Sorry...their = they're

[jacquej]

My gloom comes from what I have been able to figure out about the legal system there. The only hope at this point is with the Texas Equusearch group.

We can only pray they find her body, for if I understand that legal system, no body means no prosecution.

[monkeywrench]

I'm not sure. Following the kidnap theory, it might've been an atm deposit.

[monkeywrench]

I agree somethings wrong with it. Strange, anyway. However it may tie in with pvds agreeing to waive his rights about his son. The timing is right anyway.

He's a weak man.

[demkicker]

Wow, Nita, that was one good read! And it could easily be close to the truth. I didn't realize that PVDS had invested 15 years in trying to become a judge.... Good googa mooga! The man was probably freaking out when he found out his life, as planned, had gone down the toilet by flunking out. And as you so intuitively pointed out, his bread winner status had come to an end & he was probably desperate for $$$$$$'s.

[txrangerette]

Judge Nepolitano on FNC said the other day that Aruban law, being based on Dutch law, has the POTENTIAL of prosecuting a murder case without a body, because in a single case the "Mother Country" once did successfully prosecute a case without a body. Only one time, but apparently there's no law that says they cannot prosecute without a body, it's just that in Aruba it has never been done. But he claimed that if it was once done by the Dutch, in theory it could also be done in Aruba.

My concerns go beyond the body issue...even if there were a body, if they could not tie the suspects in forensically with the murder, for sure the lot of them will be let off. That is my concern.

If there were a body and forensics and public pressure, then they would be on the spot to bring a case.

So my concerns about this roller coaster treatment of Paul is that, beyond the body issue, they wanted to make it look like they were tough on him, but now, oh dear, we can't help it, the visiting judge let him go.

In other words, we tried, it's not our fault.

Geraldo said the affadavits they showed the judge had inconsistencies in them, and he ruled that these inconsistencies negated the evidence they were presenting. How convenient(if true).

[Ditter]

"So what's the point?">>>

Sorry but are you really this dense? It's a game, a real life murder mystery game. Didn't you ever play Clue? This is fun but at the same time it is deathly serious and we are all hoping for a good outcome but fearing the worst.

[byablue]

They are trying to get more information out of them, but this has not (yet) resulted in new leads

Send 'em to Gitmo for heaven's sake - this is getting ridiculous.

[txrangerette]

PING to my # 2472. Sorry, brigette, I intended to post this to both you and jaquej, but left you off.

[xsmommy]

ummm...since when do Freepers have to answer to you for their interest in or posting on any given thread? good grief.

[the Deejay]

PVDS RELEASED FROM JAIL!!! PER FOX.

[maggief]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160699,00.html

Suspect's Father to Be Released

http://www.cnn.com/

Detained judge in Holloway case being released

[demkicker]

Geeze, I've just caught up on this thread only to find out PVDS is going to be released! This whole ordeal may be one heck of a circle jerk, made to look as if an honest attempt to get to the truth has been accomplished.

The authorities better come up with at least one perp very, very soon or this will continue to be a nightmare for Aruba.

[the Deejay]

He's already been released.
I saw him leaving in the
backseat of a polis car.