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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: cajungirl

wasn't there some singer named Twitty?
------
Conway Twitty?


2,241 posted on 06/26/2005 8:58:18 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: Peach

I would think that they would. If e-mails can be retrieved I would thing instant messages would be also.


2,242 posted on 06/26/2005 9:00:05 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; brigette

FNC ... hearing is over.

Waiting on judge to rule.


2,243 posted on 06/26/2005 9:00:30 AM PDT by maggief
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To: TexKat

The twitty boy is one of the twitty twins who are sons of Jar if I am not mistaken. this breaks my heart if it was him.

Rule: family is usually to be trusted when they don't like boyfriends.


2,244 posted on 06/26/2005 9:03:09 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat

Cops seemed to have known the kids were IM'ing, but I wasn't sure if the kids admitted it or it they could actually trace the messages themselves.


2,245 posted on 06/26/2005 9:03:30 AM PDT by Peach
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To: maggiefluffs

Correction:

JvdS's hearing over ... four to go.


2,246 posted on 06/26/2005 9:04:33 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Peach

I think IM's can be retrieved. I think anything you write on a puter can be retrieved.


2,247 posted on 06/26/2005 9:05:45 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Peach; cajungirl; TexKat

It is my understanding that the hosting IM company (AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc.) keeps the IM's for a period of about 3 years. LE would then subpoena the host to retrieve the IM's.


2,248 posted on 06/26/2005 9:13:20 AM PDT by debg
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To: TexKat
Yes, I am a gull! (But you can just call me a "gossipy woman" if you want to; somebody did just today!

Yes, I saw that. I don't know why we all just can't get along. :)

"Come on, people now !

Smile on yo brotha

Everybody git together

try to love one another ..raght now ! "

2,249 posted on 06/26/2005 9:29:04 AM PDT by Neenah
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To: debg

Thanks debg.


2,250 posted on 06/26/2005 9:31:23 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Neenah

raght now ! raght now !


2,251 posted on 06/26/2005 9:32:24 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Okay did Joran get his cell phone when he went home after his father picked him up around 11:00 p.m..

Did Joran use a payphone at this time?

Is the cellphone Joran used at the beach his own or someone elses?



Excellent questions.

Any comments I'd contribute would be stabs out of the air. However, I'm not so sure about the beach story yet.


2,252 posted on 06/26/2005 9:53:02 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Geraldo getting fragmented reports that some of the 5 may be released.

Geraldo reporting that they are being taken out of the courthouse and being returned to the facility where they have been kept.

Geraldo stating that court has been released for today.

Geraldo is in such a rush in this reporting this a.m. that it is not exactly clear what is transpiring at the present.

2,253 posted on 06/26/2005 9:54:35 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggiefluffs

Have you or anyone heard that Aruba's justice minister has admitted taking Joran's father into custody for the purpose of making Joran talk?

I just read that on scaredmonkeys. First time I heard that.


2,254 posted on 06/26/2005 9:55:45 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: fatima
BunnySlippers,Where did you read that.

Well, I have been a Dominick Dunne fan for ages. Being a crime buff I read all of Dunne's books when they were first written. It was common knowledge when "A Season in Purgatory" was written that it was about the Moxley murder and that Skakel was the killer. In fact, I believe Vanity Fair did a story on it.

Then Dunne was all over the Moxley case and spoke of his involvment. Lastly, Dunne recently wrote an autobiographical book ... can't remember the name but it has the word Justice in it, I think. In the book Dunne tells the whole story straight and how he was given the secret report ... and decided to get Mrs. Moxley and Furhman together. Furthermore, Furhman has acknowledged such in many interriews on TV.

No secret.

2,255 posted on 06/26/2005 9:56:09 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: toldyou

you mean Rudy Croes, who was on with Geraldo last night? he is the Justice minister, but as i understand it, the prosecution is separate and apart from the gov't, and Rudy was merely conjecturing that was the reason, he wasn't admitting it as a person who would have been in a position to know for certain? do you know what i mean?i could be wrong but that is how i read what he said.


2,256 posted on 06/26/2005 9:57:38 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: cajungirl

LOL at your Slurp Slurps


2,257 posted on 06/26/2005 9:59:50 AM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)
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To: xsmommy

Makes sense. Thanks!


2,258 posted on 06/26/2005 10:01:27 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou; Howlin; cajungirl

maybe someone else can chime in re; the cast of characters, but i think the only one that i have seen that officially speaks for the prosecution is MaryAnn Croes, no relation to either Rudy or the partyboatDJ suspect. She is actually a prosecution rep. The other governmental officials are not connected to or informed of the evidence or strategy of the prosecution, is how i understand it.


2,259 posted on 06/26/2005 10:04:33 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: maggiefluffs; brigette
Moon Phase Aruba:

5 / 29

Weather Underground - Aruba

2,260 posted on 06/26/2005 10:04:44 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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