Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[stlnative]

lots of info coming out on this show

[demkicker]

THIS is the one thing that has me stymied. I remember the Mom telling Greta that there are things she will not tell anyone, that she knows. I would like to know more about this fast trip to the house.

If ever this tragedy is solved and Natalee's family gets home to the U.S., I see Beth writing a book one day about her ordeal. Not only would it help her heal from this tragedy, she could share her nightmare experiences and turn them into helpful lessons for all Americans (especially kids) when traveling abroad.

I'm quite certain the Aruban authorities are already shaking in their boots knowing that with Beth Holloway Twitty, they've got a tiger on their tails and they better find out what happened to Natalee. Everyone knows the Aruban authorities blew this case at first. Question is, are they going to blow the rest of it too? One way or another, I really feel we'll hear everything from Beth eventually. I hope she's keeping a journal.

[HoHoeHeaux]

DidI just hear Geraldo call Natalee and Joran's beach meeting a'make out session'? While her parents were standing beside him?

[TexKat]

From SM:

None for certain that the 3 guys have been changing their stories. per David Koch stated that Joran and the Kalpoes separated that night. Joran called Deepak up at 2:30 a.m. for Deepak to pick him up. Then Joran then text message Deepak not to pick him up about 30 minutes later.

So who did picked Joran up.

[TexKat]

DidI just hear Geraldo call Natalee and Joran's beach meeting a'make out session'? While her parents were standing beside him?

LOL, I did not hear that one HoHoeHeaux. I was busy concentrating on what I was typing.

[stlnative]

yes... I cringed (but Geraldo is pretty blunt)

[demkicker]

Has the rumour that Croes is suspected of breaking into the fisherman's hut and stealing rope, tape, and an anchor been explored ?

I'm taking a risk in irritating brigette over something she may have covered already, but since I've not heard anything about this theft, I'll take a chance. brigette, do you think this is true?

[cajungirl]

apparently before the Holloways got there, the chaperone who had nat's stuff had called people in Atlanta on Nat's cell phone and got info from them about who Nat was with etc. Whe the Mom got there, she went to C and C and talked to cab drivers. The police said they had no leads. Nat's mom found out about van sloot within three hours and took the cops to his house.

Nat may have been emailing him but the Mother's actions all are likely, believable and the info on VS was readily obtainable. That is no mystery.

[Bush gal in LA]

I was just thinking the same thing. I guess it's too much to ask for whoraldo to maintain some sensitivity! The poor parents!

[cajungirl]

Why does the momknowing about VS early trouble you. The friends saw Nat leave C and C with him. What are you suggesting?

[stlnative]

right now it is a rumor (like most everything else) - I have not looked into it, so no opinion on it yet from me. But I have written it down in my notes.

[johnb838]

LAter the boy said something about "the closer friends" sort of gently contradicting the girl. The way I interpreted it was that the girl and N had probably spent a lot of time together studying and become close, had heart-to-hearts and become good friends. However, I believe it was Jayne Ellen and the other girl who were her best friends.

[demkicker]

Has the rumour that Croes is suspected of breaking into the fisherman's hut and stealing rope, tape, and an anchor been explored ?

Mind telling where you got that info? Sounds interesting!

[johnb838]

If they come out with evidence at the trial, then we will all see what a great thing it was not to trumpet all kinds of crap that finds its way to the media like in cowboy America. If what comes out at the trial is a bunch of socialist PC bilge, we ought to put them on the State Dept. No-go list.

[TexKat]

From Geraldo:

David Lee Miller: a temporary delay in the hearings. None of the suspects were escorted to the site. First court appearance for PVDS. Possible 8 more day holding for PVDS. Natalee's parents will be briefed on the hearing, but will not be able to attend the hearing.

[johnb838]

Frances Ellen does look evil, doesn't she? I knew a girl that looked just like her, woman actually, she was a holy terror, unholy I guess.

[sissyjane]

Ha....ha...ha...........................

[TexKat]

From Geraldo:

Beth has no confirmation that Natalee is dead or alive. God is carrying her through this. She has faith.

[cajungirl]

Nat's mom looks about to collapse. Geraldo told her she couldn't cry. Dark circles under eyes. The poor poor woman.

[johnb838]

What was PVDS's current position, does anybody know? I kept hearoing "judge in training". What does that mean? How were they supporting themselves?