Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[TexKat]

It's been my understanding that Deepak's 18 & Sastish is 20-something.

Nope not so, Deepak is the oldest.

[the Deejay]

I know those S. American
areas pretty well. I lived
in Caracas for a time in the
1970's. Those areas are all
pretty much alike....only the
names are different...but what's
in a name?

[the Deejay]

Which one attended school w/joran?

[Conservative Texan Mom]

I misspelled Curacao. Never lived over there, but I was on a cruise that stopped in both Aruba and Curacao last week. The topography of those two is completely different. Aruba is actually not so pretty. Except for the resort areas, and beaches, it's all cactus, dirt and stone, almost barren looking.

[presently no screen name]

the 18 year old - Satish.

[TexKat]

You still have them confused. I just replayed the Greta/Mama Kalpoe video. Deepak is the oldest. Deepak work/worked at the internet cafe. Satish kept Deepak's car because Deepak did not want his car scratched,etc. Satish would go pick Deepak up when he was ready to come home from work.

Deepak has lived in Aruba for 7 years and was there before Mama Kalpoe and Satish. Mother Kalpoe told Greta she had been living in the present home for 5 years. Satish has been there living with them for only 3 years.

[maggief]

IMO, the big stretch is that would make his current story, (is the third story?), another lie.

[presently no screen name]

Sorry - 19 year old. See post #1806 for pix of him.

[TexKat]

Which one attended school w/joran?

It was first believed it was Deepak, but then I believe I either read or heard it was Satish but I am not sure about that. I will research it when time permits. But Deepak is the oldest.

[spectre]

JUST SPECULATION

Let's just suppose that he told a lie the first time, then is NOW telling the truth. No one will believe him..it's like the little boy who cried wolf.

Another angle would be that if he confessed and said he dumped her remains in the ocean, they'll think it was duress that made him confess..

The entire situation is not good.

Neenah, under normal circumstance the Aruban gov't would let him go. No body, no evidence of a crime..AND they refuse to give him a polygraph just for kicks and jollies..

sw

[Bush gal in LA]

Isn't Fox reporting the sons story has changed 3 times already?....Honestly I don't see how they can let any of these guys go. But someone posted to me last light without a body it's going to be hard for Arubian authorities to make a case, unless one of these guys talks!

[demkicker]

brigette, I really enjoy your posts and appreciate all the sleuthing you've done, but I really take exception to the ugly way you 'spoke' to CitizenM in #1386, especially after she explained herself in #1379. Try to lighten up!

[pamlet]

Beth Holloway showed up at the VS home the next day..within 24 hours..just trying to figure out why Beth is so convinced her daughter was there

Oh I realize that - but she didn't allude to the fact that she felt she was there until after she went there w/Greta. I got the impression that she made the statement then...

[maggief]

I can't keep the stories straight. My hope is that LE pressures SK. IMO, he's the least involved. Also, there may be more arrests to come ... Lorenzo, Freddie, Jaime??? Just tossing out a few names.

You are probably correct, it seems without a body it's a tough case.

[pamlet]

Just another thought on the cell phone theory... If Beth was calling it.. and heard it - don't you think she'd be breaking down the doors to get in there? Or at the very LEAST screaming and yelling until the police did someting about it?

[the Deejay]

Let's just suppose that he told a lie the first time, then is NOW telling the truth. No one will believe him..

Exactly. Who's to believe any of them?

Unless they SHOW proof.

[spectre]

Well..but what if there IS no proof? You know what I mean..

sw

[cajungirl]

My husband is suggesting a class mate killed her. Wouldn't that be something. Maybe a jealous person. But the body would have been discovered by now.

[cajungirl]

Greta's hubby?

[spectre]

And your husband's guess is as good as anyone elses..isn't it.

sw