Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[presently no screen name]

I'm under your tagline w/this...:)

He was telling Natalee's dad or stepdad - this is not the way we do things in Aruba, it's not America, etc. This was after Juran was saying the wanted to help them find Natalee and his dad and one of the brothers told him to keep quiet.

Who knows how unruly and loud it got but I'm sure it was above converstion level, perhaps, the management didn't want any loud voices concerning this event in their place.

[spectre]

I'm going to try and see if it's posted on the main forum. We spend time there every year.. Nothing much going on with this case today...so far.

See ya later, good people..

sw

[cajungirl]

I think I read that the cops made Paulus stay outside at the hotel because he was loud and argumentative.

[TexKat]

Once you get used to the FNC gongs, they aren't all that bothersome. I run Fox all day to keep up with various stories, but am usually focused on other things

Thank you, however imho they are still unnecessary unless they are used for breaking news.

We all are intitled to our own opinions.

[doc]

The most plausible theory is someone or some people did not get the sex they wanted from Natalie and things got out of hand. Her body was probably dumped far enough off shore so it would be difficult to locate her. The second theory is that she has been kidnaped.

[spectre]

Oh Gawd...I hate it when that happens. I'm serious.

[Peach]

Why would the manager keep PVDS out of the hotel? Intoxicated? Angry?

[Peach]

I see you just answered my question.

[presently no screen name]

Maybe this could be added to 'starting backwards' timeline if any of the events (below) are wrong, hopefully, someone can correct it. Thanks.


When Juran's father called him (cell) after Beth's parents showed up - he said Juran was at the Windham yet when they went there, he wasn't.

Did his dad tell him to stay there because we are coming over or did he tell him to come home?

One would think he told him to stay there since they all drove over but was it a diversion?

How long did it take to get to the Windham and return to sloot's hom, we have no idea how long they stayed.

I believe these are the critical hours - did Juran get rid of some stuff in his 'apartment' while Natalee's parents were on the while goose chase directed by Juran's dad?

[stlnative]

The Greta timeline clip they are showing on FOX is not all of it.

[hummingbird]

Heh, heh, heh...

Has Geraldo made his appearance yet? I don't want to miss it....already 40 minutes into the FOX ALERTED special program and they are basically airing repeated filler and new alerts about a shark attack in Florida....bah!

Has anyone seen the Halloway or Twitty families today?

[jacquej]

Will finally put out an idea/theory of my own as to what might have happened to the body/if a body...

There is probably a ferry to the mainland... could a body have been put in the trunk of a car and shipped off that way? Who would know the ferry/cargo ship times, and why hasn't that been considered?

[presently no screen name]

and why hasn't that been considered.


I think that's a good one.

[beyond the sea]

I ask you one more time ........... please quit posting to me also, and quit freepmailing me also.

And, one more thing, take just a moment in your life............ and smile. It may indicate an improvement in your agitated disposition.

[monkeywrench]

I found a site that stated that venezuelan ships deliver fresh fruit and vegatables (and illegals from columbia) every single day to aruba.

[jacquej]

that is a good bit of info, but we need to know what goes from Aruba to mainland, how tight the search/security might be. Is there a car/truck ferry? What are the schedules, etc...

[the Deejay]

The detailed map of Aruba
shows no ferry lines.

[Malichi]

You stay here. I've got your six. I've been here for 2 weeks typing with one hand. These jerks are just being spoilers. They're all members of the FREEPERPOLICE whose sole purpose in life is to make others feel bad so they can feel good about themselves. When they're so busy pointing out others perceived flaws they don't have time to look at their own.
Sorry I'm trying to catch up and BEYONG THE SEA and others have gotten my dander up.
TAW

[Howlin]

HEARING RESCHEDULED UNTIL TOMORROW AT 8:30 a.m.

Judge was unable to make his flight to the island.

[beyond the sea]

I don't want to be friends with you.

LOL.

my heart bleeds.......

Now, if I can just get Howard Dean to stop e-mailing me.