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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: sarasota

She's obviously STILL there..........she won't leave now even if she has to spend the night on the street!


121 posted on 06/23/2005 12:40:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Lizarde

You made me laugh!


123 posted on 06/23/2005 12:41:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

You mean she's still reporting from Aruba?


124 posted on 06/23/2005 12:41:27 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: maggiefluffs; All
Aruba Authorities Arrest Suspect's Dad - Fox News

Aruban government spokeswoman Mariaine Croes confirmed that Paul van der Sloot was detained and taken to the police station for processing.

Croes said he was arrested under "reasonable suspicion" in the disappearance of Holloway. He is now in his first 6 hours of interrogation. When that ends at 8 p.m. tonight, a judge will decide whether to hold the elder van der Sloot for another 48 hours.

125 posted on 06/23/2005 12:42:08 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: johnb838; Petronski
Just think.....Greta certainly now has replaced Commie Christiane Amenpour as the queen of cable news.

If Greta is ever embedded in Iraq, I think I'd really trust her to give us the straight news.

Go, Fox!

Leni

126 posted on 06/23/2005 12:42:28 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Florida Freepers: Check out the Florida Forum. Click the Florida Flag on Your Profile Page)
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To: Howlin

I'm looking for the quote.


127 posted on 06/23/2005 12:43:37 PM PDT by maggief
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To: hershey

Hah! What a whopper! I told a few myself in my boyhood days, but my mother was like Greta--incessant questioning until I broke down.


128 posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:12 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: pamlet

I'm willing to bet that Greta gave a copy of the interview to Beth and she gave it to the Aruban police.


129 posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:28 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: sarasota

Yep, she sure is!

I think she missed the plane out today.


130 posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Excellent. Has she had face time this afternoon?


131 posted on 06/23/2005 12:45:21 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Howlin

The media attention has been key, as well. (Again some of that has been due to the presence and persistence of Mrs. Twitty.)

I believe that Aruba would be inclined to sweep this under the rug without that kind of focus.

(I've noticed with the media on the island these last 3.5 weeks that, apart from the Holloway disappearance, there was a decapitation murder, a body found behind the cemetary and a recent suicide/disappearance on this idyllic little island. This is either a highly unusual year, or their prior crime statistics are utter B.S.)


132 posted on 06/23/2005 12:46:15 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Palladin

Very good Palladin.


133 posted on 06/23/2005 12:46:56 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

I thought the body found in the cemetary WAS the suicide, am I wrong?


134 posted on 06/23/2005 12:47:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Palladin

I thought a couple of guys I was hanging out with were going to kill me with a screwdriver once. We were all tripping (MDA, the X of the day) and they took me out to a deserted place and supposedly we were just going to drink some beer but one of them insisted on taking this big screwdriver as we left the car. I was like "what do you need the screwdriver for?" and the dude was like "oh, nothing", but I thought I saw him smirk at the other dude.

I was 15 or so and they were older, like 19 and 21, and I didn't quite understand why they let me hang out with them, neither did my friends -- they wouldn't hang out with these guys because they were creepy.

Well, they didn't kill me. I don't know if they were thinking about it and chickened out, or if I was just paranoid. It was the kind of thing these guys would have thought about -- but the finger would have been pointing right at them. Sometimes teens kill just to see what it feels like.

Funny the things this case has made me remember. Nothing good, that's for sure.


135 posted on 06/23/2005 12:47:29 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: sarasota

Yes, she has; she's the one who said that if they hold the dad past 8 p.m. he's involved.


136 posted on 06/23/2005 12:47:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: maggiefluffs

Now we know WHY he was sweating, and those hands wringing a mile a minute.


137 posted on 06/23/2005 12:48:21 PM PDT by Sunshine55
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To: hershey

Why not believe him? That delays the bad news for what? One day? The weekend? Surely he didn't try to peddle that he was never going to get one?


138 posted on 06/23/2005 12:48:54 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: maggiefluffs

BTW, thanks for the ping!


139 posted on 06/23/2005 12:49:34 PM PDT by Sunshine55
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To: Palladin

That's an interesting and believable scenario, and if true, so much worse for them all than it should have been. Even if N had died of suffocation during attempted rape, they could still have gone to the cops and told at least some of the truth. It was an accident, when they realized she was dead, they went for help, etc.. This way, they dug their own graves. As to three 'boys' emailing and IM'ing their friends back and forth, that's totally believable. Kids never keep their mouths shut. And in this case, if Joran was trying to arrange the disposal of N's body, it makes real sense. It's likely Croese demanded payment to do this, if he did, after all, he's a father of a three year old, not wet behind the ears and this was extremely risky business. Joran's dad told Greta he was an actual judge, not in training, so they had an interesting conversation about the law for a few minutes during that interview. It's hard to believe a judge would get involved in disposal of a body, paying for it. For one thing, he'd lay himself open to blackmail. But who knows how a father would react when faced with what Joran might have confessed in the early hours of that morning. I'm still picking my jaw up off the floor after Greta's latest interview on Fox.


140 posted on 06/23/2005 12:50:20 PM PDT by hershey
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