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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: Howlin

Oh, I'm sure that was her. Have they used sonar yet in Aruba? Because from what you posted, it sees a LOT.


1,101 posted on 06/24/2005 6:01:20 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

No. Tomorrow.


1,102 posted on 06/24/2005 6:01:50 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Wayfarer

Thanks for the specifics.


1,103 posted on 06/24/2005 6:02:42 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

Yes, that's what we are talking about. I was typing Gibson's questions.

And I don't believe the Aruban officials when they say they don't have sharks there; they sure do at the other ABC islands.

FNC just gave the crimes PVDS was arrested with and it was complicity to kidnap and murder? Did I hear them say murder? And what happened to the premeditated charge?


1,104 posted on 06/24/2005 6:02:52 PM PDT by Peach
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To: sarasota

The government guy, Reuben, says that there are NO skarks in Aruba.


1,105 posted on 06/24/2005 6:03:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

OFF TOPIC: is the Billy Graham crusade being shown on TV anywhere?


1,106 posted on 06/24/2005 6:04:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: jacquej
Or alcohol and Ambien. I took that sleeping pill for awhile, and I couldn't recall going to BED..My husband would remind me that we had discussed things before I went to bed, and I SWEAR, I didn't remember.

NO MORE AMBIEN for me..no way!

sw

1,107 posted on 06/24/2005 6:04:52 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Peach

Sean just said "premeditated murder".


1,108 posted on 06/24/2005 6:05:12 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Howlin

Sean/Fox is talking about it now (background of his interview w/Jug).


1,109 posted on 06/24/2005 6:05:57 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

I wanted to see it.


1,110 posted on 06/24/2005 6:06:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Will there be live coverage? I have a great deal of respect for Billy.


1,111 posted on 06/24/2005 6:07:15 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

That's what I'm looking for.


1,112 posted on 06/24/2005 6:07:35 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Peach

He really got all het up about the sharks, made my husband laugh, he sounded like Bahgdad Bob. But I love Trapp nevertheless, he reminds me of Antonio Banderas.


1,113 posted on 06/24/2005 6:08:18 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Howlin

Reuben is "high"

http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_b.html

Punta Basora is the easternmost point of Aruba, from which a narrow reef stretches far out into the sea. On calm days, divers will see tuna, ballyhoo, eagle rays, stingrays, barracudas, dorados, hammerhead sharks and hawskbill and loggerhead turtles pass by on their way around this point of the island.

At the Shark Caves you can get very close to sleeping nurse and sand sharks.

The waters surrounding Palm Island are a colorful dive site, where the reef stretches on and on, hidden behind the serene mangroves of the reef islands. This part of the island's reef system, all the way to Oranjestad, is only accessible by boat but is very interesting, with its immense diversity of marine life. There are crevices in the reef where nurse sharks sleep during the day, allowing you to get very close and even touch them.


1,114 posted on 06/24/2005 6:08:48 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: Howlin

FNC is showing it.

This is an official Aruba web site which mentions scuba diving and sharks.

http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/scuba.html


1,115 posted on 06/24/2005 6:08:48 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin; sarasota

I thought the Aruban guy sort of faultered like he was saying something he shouldn't too...

Now Greta was saying that the 5 of them are in "3 levels" of trouble...

1. JVDS - the "most trouble"..
2. the brothers and Steve - accomplices
3. PVDS - complicity

So the father's not in "as much trouble"

Nat's Dad... (is that Jug?) saying he thought all 5 were charged the same - so who knows what the deal is..


1,116 posted on 06/24/2005 6:09:25 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: Peach

Another web site for Aruba where they mention shark caves. LOL

So much for that guy's credibility.

http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_b.html


1,117 posted on 06/24/2005 6:09:55 PM PDT by Peach
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To: the Deejay

Arubans are freaking outu about losing our dollars. All they need to finish the place off is a rumor of man eating sharks. I laughed and laughed at him,,there are sharks all over the caribbean.


1,118 posted on 06/24/2005 6:09:57 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Howlin
I don't think they ever found Laci's skull?

Can't find Billy Graham Crusade anywhere on TV. I love that man.

sw

1,119 posted on 06/24/2005 6:10:03 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: vigilante2; brigette

What if the judge is not a corrupt judge but a new judge who is a threat to the drug trade of Aruba

Maybe Papa VD suggested during the 90 minute interview with Greta & BH without cameras present that he believes his family is being targeted by drug cartels and he believes they are the ones who kidnapped her daughter

This would explain why BH looked so stunned as she was leaving the the 90 minute interveiw that day

It would also explain inconsistencies in his own stories and why BH is convinced now NH was kidnapped


1,120 posted on 06/24/2005 6:10:23 PM PDT by vigilante2
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