Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1

I hear you. I need to have one junk email account, one junk sign in name and one junk password. :-D

1,261 posted on 06/18/2005 5:42:35 PM PDT by maggief

Good, your input is always valued.

Any news from ls?

1,262 posted on 06/18/2005 5:44:24 PM PDT by maggief

Venezuela is only 15 miles from Aruba. I guess I'm a hopeless optimist, but I keep thinking she was sold...As if that's something to hope for :o(

1,263 posted on 06/18/2005 5:44:54 PM PDT by Sunshine55

To: Rippersnapper

1,264 posted on 06/18/2005 5:49:52 PM PDT by sarasota

It's a wide open area down there even though it's "close" to Venezuela. People think that the Caribbean basin is an easily traveled region, but it's vast. And somebody who wants to hide can just island hop and negotiate a price easily. And once somebody gets into Venezuela you can be sure it's next to impossible to be found.

1,265 posted on 06/18/2005 5:51:17 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))

The words "a fate worse than death" come to mind...frequently.

1,266 posted on 06/18/2005 5:52:48 PM PDT by Sunshine55

To: maggiefluffs

From SM:

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If there has only been 1, or maybe 2 homicides with this man who was killed last night. While a fullscale island wide investigation is going on. If I lived in an environment that had 3% total crime and less than a handful of homicides per year, I would be very concerned about this turn of events connected or not. How does a LE agency that never deals with homicides now deals with 2 overlapping?

1,267 posted on 06/18/2005 5:53:02 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

Aruba has to be in meltdown mode, struggling to keep their heads above water, so to speak.

1,268 posted on 06/18/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by sarasota

To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Natalee Holloway a wòrdu asesiná ?

Latest developments in Aruba:The latest occurrences in Aruba suggest that the island is currently going trough very bad times. Starting with case of Natalee Holloway who has been missing since may 30th . The local authorities aided by the FBI and some Dutch experts have not been able to crack this case yet. As if this case wasn’t enough, Hasibokos.com has received information that the police a have found a (partially) decapitated body of an Aruban male Saturday morning in the neighborhood called Sabana (see map). The scene at the house and the cemetery have been described as gruesome and bloody. . According to preliminary (unconfirmed) reports the man was murdered in his house and then later dumped in a cemetery close by. There are also reports of an additional person who’s missing on the island. The pickup truck of the missing man has been found, but the man himself is nowhere to be found. This recent murder and additional missing case are all being investigated

1,269 posted on 06/18/2005 5:58:01 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

To: TexKat; Rippersnapper; Sunshine55; All

http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005

Latest developments in Aruba:The latest occurrences in Aruba suggest that the island is currently going trough very bad times. Starting with case of Natalee Holloway who has been missing since may 30th . The local authorities aided by the FBI and some Dutch experts have not been able to crack this case yet. As if this case wasn’t enough, Hasibokos.com has received information that the police a have found a (partially) decapitated body of an Aruban male Saturday morning in the neighborhood called Sabana (see map). The scene at the house and the cemetery have been described as gruesome and bloody. . According to preliminary (unconfirmed) reports the man was murdered in his house and then later dumped in a cemetery close by. There are also reports of an additional person who’s missing on the island. The pickup truck of the missing man has been found, but the man himself is nowhere to be found. This recent murder and additional missing case are all being investigated

Check out the axe photo from a "friend" in stories about Satish ...

http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=hHNn1kGpot4KVCHv

1,270 posted on 06/18/2005 5:59:26 PM PDT by maggief

The sharks are in a feeding frenzy on land and sea.

1,271 posted on 06/18/2005 6:01:43 PM PDT by sarasota

FOXNews Big Story will have the photos taken down from JVDS's website.

1,272 posted on 06/18/2005 6:01:59 PM PDT by maggief

Missing teen's mother attends mass dedicated to family

6/18/2005, 7:24 p.m. CT

By PETER PRENGAMAN The Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — A judge on Saturday ordered the teen son of a prominent justice official and his two friends to stay in jail for at least a week more while investigators continue their search for clues in the disappearance of a young U.S. woman.

A fourth man detained in the case was to appear before a judge Monday, said Attorney General spokeswoman Mariaine Croes.

The man was identified by his boss as Steve Gregory Croes, a 26-year-old disc jockey on the privately owned party boat "Tattoo." He was arrested early Friday, a day after being contacted by police and giving them a statement, "Tattoo" owner Marcus Wiggins told The Associated Press on Friday.

Under Dutch law, which Aruba follows as a Dutch protectorate, authorities can detain individuals for up to 116 days without filing formal charges. A judge must review the case after the first 10 days, and then periodically after that.

Judge Bob Wit, who was sent in from the neighboring Dutch island of Curacao, extended the detention of Joran van der Sloot, 17, and brothers, Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, for eight days, said Mariaine Croes, who is not related to the fourth detainee.

Natalee Holloway, 18, of Mountain Brook, Alabama, disappeared in the early hours of May 30, the last day of a five-day vacation with 124 other students to celebrate their high school graduation.

Searches by authorities, volunteer islanders and tourists have led nowhere. Investigators were refusing to say if they thought Holloway was dead. Her mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, has said she will continue to believe Natalee is alive until she has proof otherwise.

Van der Sloot is the son of Paul van der Sloot, of the Netherlands, who is training to be a judge in Aruba.

In Alabama, a friend of Holloway's family said Natalee's relatives, not Aruban police, first identified and located Joran and the Kalpoe brothers — less than a day after the young woman disappeared, and only three hours after family members started looking.

"She had been missing less than 24 hours and we had all three names and addresses, so it's just disappointing that they (authorities) weren't able to move faster," Jody Bearman, who organized the graduation trip and went to Aruba to help in the search, said in an interview with the AP on Friday.

The three young men weren't taken into custody until 10 days after Holloway's family first knew of them.

Aruban authorities have defended their investigation, saying police work takes time. Mariaine Croes declined comment Saturday on how authorities initially learned of the three young men. "We have to wait for the investigation to finish," she said.

Holloway Twitty, 44, has insisted that Joran and the Kalpoes hold the key to the investigation and that authorities pressure the young men harder to tell the truth. She said if there is not significant progress soon in the case, she may start to believe that authorities are protecting the detainees. Aruban authorities have said they are pursuing all leads and protecting no one.

Holloway Twitty sat on the front pew during a Mass dedicated to her family Saturday night at a Pentecostal church.

"We admire the strength and courage you've shown as a mother," pastor Gilbert Martes told the missing teen's mother, who listened to the sermon with her eyes closed.

On Friday, a judge ruled on a petition from the elder van der Sloot to visit his son, whom he has not been allowed to see since Joran was detained on June 9, and from the Kalpoes' attorneys requesting to see any evidence prosecutors may have gathered, Croes said. Both Croes and Court secretary Isella Wernet refused to reveal the rulings. Defense attorneys did not return calls seeking comment.

On Wednesday, investigators towed two vehicles and searched the premises of the van der Sloot home in Noord, outside the capital of Oranjestad. Joran lived in an apartment attached to the main house. Authorities have not released the results of the search, but Attorney General Caren Janssen has said that Paul van der Sloot is not under investigation.

It was not entirely clear how Croes might be connected to the other detainees. He told Wiggins that he knew one of the Kalpoe brothers because he went to the same Internet cafe, Wiggins said.

Wiggins did not comment on Croes' possible involvement in Natalee Holloway's disappearance. He said he had never seen any of the three young men aboard the "Tattoo," a party boat offering dining, dancing and swimming whose patrons must be 18 and older.

Holloway Twitty remarked Friday that Croes' arrest was "just the beginning," and that she believed additional people might be brought into custody. She did not elaborate, however, and also declined to say what she knew about Croes.

"There is a chance we'll have more suspects, but it's impossible to speculate now because we are still investigating," Mariaine Croes said Saturday.

Police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten refused to identify Croes by name Friday but said that the latest detainee was arrested based on information provided by one of the three young men already in custody. The attorney general's office released a statement Friday identifying Croes' only by his initials, S.G.C., age 26.

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Eds: Associated Press reporter Jay Reeves in Birmingham, Alabama, contributed to this report.

1,273 posted on 06/18/2005 6:03:51 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

Oh for sure..and this is just the beginning.

1,274 posted on 06/18/2005 6:04:03 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))

She is alive...the story is "moving"

1,275 posted on 06/18/2005 6:05:53 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))

To: maggiefluffs

Hubert Teal is reporting that Natalee is still alive.

1,276 posted on 06/18/2005 6:06:00 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

Just heard this...they have somone from Venezuela...on a boat?

1,277 posted on 06/18/2005 6:06:41 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))

To: Rippersnapper

rippersnapper.....I must say that you've sure made a grand entrance as a new freeper......good job.....and welcome....

1,278 posted on 06/18/2005 6:07:28 PM PDT by cherry

Hubert...has just dropped a bombshell!

1,279 posted on 06/18/2005 6:07:38 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))

Brigette where are you??? Reports coming in that Natalee is alive, not found yet, but still alive.

1,280 posted on 06/18/2005 6:07:43 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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