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Core of Supernova Goes Missing
SPACE.com via YAHOO ^ | 6 June 2005 | Michael Schirber

Posted on 06/06/2005 12:18:35 PM PDT by ladtx

A search for the remains of a nearby stellar explosion has come up empty. Astronomers observed the blast site of the supernova, SN 1987A, with the Hubble Space Telescope, but could not find any sign of the dense stellar core.

"We think a neutron star was formed. The question is: Why don't we see it?" astronomer Genevieve Graves of UC Santa Cruz said today.

A neutron star is an extremely dense ball of subatomic particles, which theory says can form as the core of a massive star collapses after exploding. This is what is believed to have happened in 1987, when a star with 20 times the mass of our Sun blew up, 165,000 light-years away in the Large Magellanic Cloud.

"Therein lies the mystery -- where is that missing neutron star?" said Robert Kirshner of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA).

Neutron stars are often detected as pulsars when they emit intense beams of radio waves, like a lighthouse. It may be too soon to see radio flashes from the remnant of SN 1987A, since theory predicts that pulsars take between 100 to 100,000 years to develop after a supernova.

A young neutron star could, however, be seen if it is swallowing up nearby gas and debris from the explosion. This accreted material would heat up and emit light. But when the team of astronomers scoured the area of SN 1987A, they found no signature of this accretion.

"A neutron star could just be sitting there inside SN 1987A, not accreting matter and not emitting enough light for us to see," said Peter Challis from the CfA.

Future observations may uncover this quiet remnant by studying the infrared emission from dust clouds in the vicinity, which may be reprocessing the weak ultraviolet and visible light coming from the neutron star.

A supernova from a more massive star can form a black hole, instead of a neutron star. The progenitor of SN 1987A is right near the dividing line, so it may have created a black hole. Still, a black hole would be indirectly detectable by the same accretion mechanism that was not seen in these latest results.


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To: HamiltonJay
Wouldn't that be 165,020 years ago?

Nah, we're on Daylight Savings Time now.

21 posted on 06/06/2005 12:30:27 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: lilylangtree
Then the magog ate it
22 posted on 06/06/2005 12:31:23 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ladtx
(Threatening, evil voice) "Return the core. You will not be harmed. Return the core and walk away. Just walk away."
23 posted on 06/06/2005 12:31:58 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: ladtx; Chieftain

This is Bush's fault!!!
He said there was a Supernova Core out there....now we can't find it! Just like the WMD's.

Let's send Kerry out there in space to find it! (After all, you know he went all the way to Cambodia after serving in Vietnam! ) OOOps! Just got the Kerry quote off NBC, "That Supernova was out there before it wasn't!!"


24 posted on 06/06/2005 12:32:25 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Talking_Mouse

It's still Bush's fault!


25 posted on 06/06/2005 12:32:29 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations!)
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To: ladtx

Sloan got it in the season-finale cliffhanger.


26 posted on 06/06/2005 12:32:36 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: ladtx
A search for the remains of a nearby stellar explosion has come up empty

I last saw it in my clothes drier. Darn it, one of my socks is missing too......

27 posted on 06/06/2005 12:32:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

You sure got Kerry pegged!


28 posted on 06/06/2005 12:35:50 PM PDT by Chieftain (Thanks to the Swift Boat Veterans, Vietnam Veterans, and POW's for Truth for standing tall.)
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To: ladtx

It was in the Clinton adult bookstore and massage parlor, but he sold it to either Kim il Jong or AQ Khan.


29 posted on 06/06/2005 12:44:59 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: ladtx

Where are you little star?
(Where are you?)

Whoah oh, oh, oh-uh-oh
Ratta ta ta too-ooh-ooh
Whoah oh, oh, oh-uh-oh
Ratta ta ta too-ooh-ooh

Twinkle twinkle little star
How I wonder where you are
Wish I may, wish I might
Make this wish come true tonight
Searched all over for a love
You're the one I'm thinkin' of

Whoah oh, oh, oh-uh-oh
Ratta ta ta too-ooh-ooh
Whoah oh, oh, oh-uh-oh
Ratta ta ta too-ooh-ooh

Twinkle twinkle little star
How I wonder where you are
High above the clouds somewhere
Send me down a love to share.....


30 posted on 06/06/2005 12:45:24 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!!)
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To: ladtx

SG1 sent it through a Stargate to PX11539, where it was sucked into a black hole, triggering the Supernova that incinerated Apophos' fleet. I thought everyone knew that...


31 posted on 06/06/2005 12:45:29 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: ladtx

"Core of Supernova Goes Missing"

It's probably next to the left sock that disappeared from my dryer Friday.


32 posted on 06/06/2005 12:46:35 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: ladtx

Bush's fault.


33 posted on 06/06/2005 12:52:16 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† ||Iran Azadi|| WA Fraud: votes outnumber voters, court sez it's okay!)
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To: ladtx
Heck...all they need to do is look under the hood...

Super Nova Core


34 posted on 06/06/2005 12:57:05 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Al Gore can find it. He invented the Hubble Telescope, you know. ;)
35 posted on 06/06/2005 1:01:27 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Would you like an apple pie with that?)
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To: HamiltonJay
165,020 years ago?

So it didn't happen on Bush's watch.   Say, who was president 165,020 years ago?

36 posted on 06/06/2005 1:02:33 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: general_re
Ain’t sayin ya did it, ain’t sayin ya didn’t.
37 posted on 06/06/2005 1:07:26 PM PDT by dighton
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To: ladtx

"We think a neutron star was formed. The question is: Why don't we see it?" astronomer Genevieve Graves of UC Santa Cruz said today.

The force...use the force!!


38 posted on 06/06/2005 1:24:03 PM PDT by Redcitizen (One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter)
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To: ladtx

Maybe it's in the stellar outhouse taking a core dump. Give a star some privacy, will yas?


39 posted on 06/06/2005 1:38:08 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: BroncosFan
Undoubtedly something sinister is afoot. Since all things are fundamentally interconnected, this must tie in with the Schrödinger Cat mystery that Dirk Gently has been working on for at least a decade by now. This case, as you may know, garnered him no small amount of noteriety with the SPCA; Dirk actually performed the experiment postulated by Schroedinger:

A cat is placed in a sealed box. Attached to the box is an apparatus containing a radioactive nucleus and a canister of poison gas. The experiment is set up so that there is a 50% chance of the nucleus decaying in one hour. If the nucleus decays, it will emit a particle that triggers the apparatus, which opens the canister and kills the cat. According to quantum mechanics, the unobserved nucleus is described as a superposition (mixture) of "decayed nucleus" and "undecayed nucleus". However, when the box is opened the experimenter sees only a "decayed nucleus/dead cat" or a "undecayed nucleus/living cat."

The question is: when does the system stop existing as a mixture of states and become one or the other? The purpose of the experiment is to illustrate that quantum mechanics is incomplete without some rules to describe when the wavefunction collapses and the cat becomes dead or remains alive instead of a mixture of both.

Contrary to popular belief, Schrödinger did not intend this thought experiment to indicate that he believed that the dead-alive cat would actually exist; rather he considered the quantum mechanical theory to be incomplete and not representative of reality in this case. Since a cat clearly must either be alive or dead (there is no state between alive and dead, e.g. half-dead) surely the same must be true of the nucleus. It must be either decayed or not decayed.

However, Dirk did perform the experiment, and using his clairvoyant abilities (rumors of which he spread possessing through his vehement denial of possessing them) wanted to test Schrödinger's postulate. To his suprise, Gently discovered the box to be empty. This was a most suprising development, in not so much that the cat had been stolen, but just who would want to steal a cat?

Now there has been the development of an extremely dense and higly radioactive stellar core that's been stolen! Its not so much a question of who'd want to steal such a thing, but just what connection is there between these two events? Nobody would deny that a field trip is absolutely necessary in order to examine the crime scene. That, of course, means a site visit to the radio-telescope in Arecibo, Puerto Rico. Now it is my understanding that Carnival Cruise Lines do provide transportation to that destination does it not? I'm certain these cases (being interconnected somehow) would require undercover fact finding mission to be done on certain beaches of Puerto Rico. Now what undercover fact finding mission on certain Puerto Rican beaches wouldn't require a certain quantity of umbrelly drinks?

Obviously, all expenses incurred to date (at least seven years running) in this endeavor are the obligation of a certain Mrs. Sauskind (to whom belonged the cat Roderick that Ghently used in his recreation of the Schroedinger Cat expiriment) - expenses which I believe in part contain the following (while albeit seemingly expensive it is the reason they're called expenses):

I'm certain this recent developemnt should help bring the case to an expeditious closing at this point, unless it takes on a direction of an unpredictable nature (which usually is the case even so all things inherently are interconnected in a fundamental sense.
40 posted on 06/06/2005 1:48:00 PM PDT by raygun
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