Posted on 06/04/2005 10:33:08 AM PDT by freeperskickbutt
ASHINGTON - The Pentagon on Friday confirmed for the first time that a U.S. soldier deliberately kicked a Guantanamo Bay prisoner's Muslim holy book in violation of the military's rules for handling the Quran.
In other confirmed incidents, prison guards threw water balloons in a cell block, causing an unspecified number of Qurans to get wet; a guard's urine splashed on a detainee and his Quran; an interrogator stepped on a Quran during an interrogation; and a two-word obscenity was written in English on the inside cover of a Quran.
The findings are among the results of an investigation last month by Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, the commander of the detention center in Cuba, that was triggered by a Newsweek magazine report — later retracted — that a U.S. soldier had flushed one Guantanamo Bay detainee's Quran down a toilet.
The story stirred worldwide controversy and the Bush administration blamed it for deadly demonstrations in Afghanistan.
Last week, Hood disclosed that he had confirmed five cases of mishandling of the Quran, but he refused to provide details. Allegations of Quran desecration at Guantanamo Bay have led to anti-American passions in many Muslim nations, although Pentagon officials have insisted that the problems were relatively minor and that U.S. commanders have gone to great lengths to enable detainees to practice their religion in captivity.
Hood said last week that he found no credible evidence that a Quran was ever flushed down a toilet. He said a prisoner who was reported to have complained to an FBI agent in 2002 that a military guard threw a Quran in the toilet has since told Hood's investigators that he never witnessed any form of Quran desecration.
"Zotmo" Well done AM! A new FReeper term! Love it.
The government is used to keeping a certain number of happenings secret and classified. They do this sometimes with the wrong information for the wrong reasons. The discovery that something has been covered up for the purposes of protecting someone's career usually results in several careers being destroyed. But the culture of classified data is hard to break, some things really deserve to be classified. For example, when we capture a computer with good information on it that takes time to decode. Telling the bad guys about this will give them tiem to alter their plans and locations making the information usless. But if they don't hear that the data is being analyzed maybe they continue doing what they are doing.
In the case of desecration of someone's holy book it was probably thought that the incident could be kept from the other prisoners and defused over time. This was a bad supposition.
If it gets the dirtbagz talkin' I'm for bringing in a LOT of water, BIGGER toilets, BLACK gloves, cleated boots, piles of dirt, trucker's pee bottles and maybe a couple chaplains from the Hell's Angels-----none of this stuff violates Geneva rules----and if it's effective ought to be used. If it's not effective it ought to be shut down and shut up about. Someone in Gov't ought to show some hair, learn how to keep a secret, lean on these kreeps, and git ér done in the WOT
According to the mass media, moron. Read the story you posted. According to the Afghan government and the UNITED NATIONS, WHICH IS A HEAVY PRESENCE IN AFGHANISTAN (though they're still too scared to venture back into Iraq after hiring the Ba'athists who blew their own -the UN's- heads off, as it were) the riot which caused the deaths of so many innocent people was over a bogus atory of a Qu'ran being flushed down a toilet. See, changing the story AFTER the fact and trying to tailor it to fit a previous, bogus story, is just stupid. Of course we're not going to care. See, people with NORMAL IQs can smell a setup that's as obvious as a three week old, road-killed deer in July. This is media manufactureed hype.
Just like the appearance of Deep Throat (what IS it with you guys obsessed with oral sex??) The story was a Plame type media conjuration back then and it's no more accurate now, but it goes great with the
...DAMNED BORING, MONOTONOUS daily comparisons to the Nixon administration inflicted upon the public for several years (PSSSSST, media - overdoaed public people; get a new script)
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SUCCEED AT AN IMPEACHMENT.
Oh yeah....and for your education:
Nixon was not impeached. He resigned rather than face the embarrassment to himself, his office and his country that impeachment would cause.
Bill Clinton WAS impeached, just not forced to resigen, because he cared not a whit about the embarrassment to himself, his office and his country that impeachment would cause.
WHY are we back to such a low quality of troll??
Who was it that had the "Troll-B-Gone" pest spray graphic?
It should give us a little insight, however, into this "great" world religion: a mistake is logically, legally equal to a sin. (Sounds like Kerry and other crats--"Bush lied," rather than Bush mistakenly believed.)
So our people showed more respect for the koran than these monkeys have ever shown a Bible? This is a non story. Maybe I'll print rolls of toilet paper with the Koran written on them and sell them on e-bay. Everything I needed to know about islam I learned on 9-11.
This is the first time I've managed to get on FR in a few weeks and at first was THRILLED to get on a troll thread right near the beginning....but this one was such low quality I get about the same amount of satisfaction as swatting an annoying housefly.
I know.
This one was so obvious that it was more of a mercy that he got zotted.
All this took place in Ashington? Are you sure it wasn't Assington?
'Zactly. Thanks.
LOL...yeah, to us. The AM put him/her/it/other/NA out of our misery.
did I read this correctly, this person was banned for duplicate posting?
how far down have you read?
there it is :)
LOL, pretty much like the mod sighed, looked bored, and vaguely wondered where the heavy duty hermetically sealed garbage cans were while stepping on the bug and grinding their heel.
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