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BREAKING - Dems Successfully Filibuster Bolton in Senate
CSPAN | 5/26/05 | Me

Posted on 05/26/2005 3:43:28 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket

Bolton fails to get the 60 votes to invoke cloture. Dem filbuster is on.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 109th; 26may2005; bolton; filibuster; johnbolton; obstructionistdems; pubbiessupportus; ratssupportun; sodomy; ussenate
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To: ohioWfan
It's the same with the Nuke optoin. He has to have the votes. The RINO 7 made that impossible because that would take 51 votes. 55 minus 7 does not = 51...geeez

I'm amazed at these people who claim to be so politically savie, but can't grasp simple math.

481 posted on 05/26/2005 7:27:04 PM PDT by ShowMeMom (Thou shall not commit nincompoopery.)
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To: concerned about politics

Why doesn't he run for the *Democratic* nomination? Too conservative for the Democrat base?


482 posted on 05/26/2005 7:28:01 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: speekinout

Very well stated -- feel like I have been shouting that from the rooftops for the last few days on here.

I live in Oklahoma with two of the most Conservative Senators so why should they be punished because of something McLame and his McLemmings did. We need more conservative Senators. Asked the other days how many people yelling the loudest had been in the trenches working to elect conservatives in their States and received no replies.


483 posted on 05/26/2005 7:28:04 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Mary Fallin for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: ShowMeMom

That doesn't take account a potential for maverick Democrats voting with the GOP though...


484 posted on 05/26/2005 7:28:38 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: ShowMeMom

Makes you wonder about these people -- lack of math skills and reading comprehension -- that tells me that they defintely not conservatives that have waited years to have this many conservatives in the Senate -- we are really close to have 50 conservatives and they want to blow it. Tells me they are here to stir up trouble, but it is not working very well as they out themselves.


485 posted on 05/26/2005 7:30:16 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Mary Fallin for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: So Cal Rocket

The revenge of President Bush is coming very soon and many a** holes will suffer.


486 posted on 05/26/2005 7:30:29 PM PDT by alwaysrepublican (When Passion Rules she never rules wisely)
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To: Renatus
Did you hear Lindsey Graham call himself a conservative republican on the senate floor today?

Never listen to what a politician says. They're trained to deceive.
ALWAYS watch what they do. Actions speak louder then words.
Make them accountable for their deeds!

487 posted on 05/26/2005 7:31:04 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: BurbankKarl

same here.


488 posted on 05/26/2005 7:31:10 PM PDT by troublesome creek
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To: PhiKapMom

Is there a chance that getting over the top could require conservative DINO's?


489 posted on 05/26/2005 7:31:31 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: steveegg

LOL!!! Speaking of that -- light tornado season here in OK this spring. Knock on wood!


490 posted on 05/26/2005 7:32:10 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Mary Fallin for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

My neighbor used to intern for McLame when he first started....he has nothing nice tosay about him except that he was idealistic when first arriving in DC.....now he is just power hungry.


491 posted on 05/26/2005 7:32:29 PM PDT by Feiny (TEAM AMERICA ate my baby!)
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To: PhiKapMom

BTW, the one thing the "compromise" does with regard to Bolton is make a Constitutional Option with regard to ambassador nominees be a bit more "surprising" should it happen. It would be nice to see, say, Graham and DeWine pull a technicality on the RATs and the LeftStream Media.


492 posted on 05/26/2005 7:32:36 PM PDT by steveegg (Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
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To: scott7278

My friends, I apologize. I was one of the Freepers who was optimistic about the judges deal. Although I supported the constitutional option, I thought the filibuster deal would bring new bi-partisanship.
Boy was I wrong!
Democrats are proving that they can still press the button when they need to. And we better believe that they will for Supreme Court nominees.
I apologize. I was wrong.
Nuclear option all the way!


493 posted on 05/26/2005 7:32:40 PM PDT by mowkeka (If you thought I hated McCain before, I am FURIOUS now!!!!!!!!)
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To: Heartofsong83
Question: if the Republicans were to be conservative-only, the Democrats would likely counter to be liberal-only and that creates a boundary line. What would happen to the moderates, do they form a 3rd party?

Absolutely not! There can never ever be a "moderate party". Moderates don't believe ANYTHING. They are just wishy-washy appeasers who must cling to people who stand for something to be sucessful. What would their platform be? Maybe this, "I don't know and I don't care"?

494 posted on 05/26/2005 7:32:57 PM PDT by ShowMeMom (Thou shall not commit nincompoopery.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

'Ya mean rats are going to shut down government anyway, even though Republicans didn't exercise the nuclear option?!


495 posted on 05/26/2005 7:34:17 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: stands2reason

To FR, only one year, to be a loyal Repulican, my entire adult life-about 36 years.

It's still a strange statement for a FReeper.


496 posted on 05/26/2005 7:34:19 PM PDT by conshack ((Illegal immigration is the #1 threat to Homeland Security))
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To: Heartofsong83

I think it does require some conservative DINO's that you have to wonder why they are still in the Dem Party. Ben Nelson being one of those. We need 60 and only have 55 Republican Senators. If we had two more the three Dems would have ended the debate.


497 posted on 05/26/2005 7:35:56 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Mary Fallin for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: Heartofsong83; ShowMeMom
But Dem "maverick" Lieberman SAID he would vote with them on the cloture vote, and then reneged.

You can't trust any of them.

498 posted on 05/26/2005 7:36:32 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: Heartofsong83
if the Republicans were to be conservative-only, the Democrats would likely counter to be liberal-only and that creates a boundary line

Most Americans are moderates. (And, no, that doesn't mean they don't know what they think). The Dems have gotten so Liberal that the moderates are voting GOP. If the GOP leaders decided to take a hard Conservative line, the Dems just might go back to clintoon-style triangulation, which gets them the moderate votes.
But, yes, if both parties decided to take the extreme view, a third party would have a very good chance. It would just need a leader, and one could emerge.

499 posted on 05/26/2005 7:37:05 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: PhiKapMom

Keep knocking :-) (they've been north, which doesn't bode well for June when they're most numerous here). Had a couple "close" calls in 2000 (if the one on Ash Wednesday had come down a few minutes earlier, I probably would've been staring at it instead of thinking "if that green sky had come here a few minutes later....",)


500 posted on 05/26/2005 7:38:00 PM PDT by steveegg (Will the "extraordinary" line have the name Brown or Pryor attached to it?)
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