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...and remember to squeeze the trigger gently....
1 posted on 05/24/2005 5:44:13 AM PDT by jdsteel
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I understand what your saying, but to those of us in flyover country all this means is that we will hold our fire while the Republicans sell us down the river again next time and we're told to suck it up again! No, make no mistake, we had the Democrats on the ropes and we let them go. They will now come back emboldened and beat the snot out of us, and the media will gleefully help them.

The Democrats had NO position. They were in the wrong. They dragged out this whole charade. They held no cards but bluffed their way to stealing the dealer blind.

Do you really think the Democrats wanted to go on record and national TV to argue against Pricella Owens? Do you really think the Democrats wanted to go on record and vote against Janice Brown? Of course they didn't. They were scared to death that they might have had to do that, but thanks to the gang of 7, the Republicans saved the Democrats from their self-destruction.

This is an outrage. We have been sold down the river!


29 posted on 05/24/2005 5:53:19 AM PDT by Obadiah
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And the purpose of having a majority is....(keeping in mind we are a Republic)


30 posted on 05/24/2005 5:53:23 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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Heard an excellent analogy on Bill Bennett's Morning in America .This "compromise " reminded one participant of a
farmer who heard a fox in the henhouse. He grabbed his gun and rushed to confront the fox. The fox worked out a compromise the agreed not to harm the three chickens that had not escaped the henhouse, then, if the farmer agreed to
not shoot the fox, and would not banish him from the hen- house.I like it. It works. I was reminded how a writer many years before the United States was even a dream to any but God. And that writer spoke of a Jew who told his fellow law makers and Judges in the Sanhedrin that it was
better to sacrifice one man(Jesus) to perserve their status quo. I told Ken Salazar the "compromised"Senators worried about perserving Senate rules as abased by the Democrats have determined to sacrifice principle to preserve their corruption.They should live to see their world turned upside down by the stone they rejected.


32 posted on 05/24/2005 5:53:44 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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yes squeeze it don't yank it, it not your McCain!


34 posted on 05/24/2005 5:54:59 AM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE BLUE PIMPLE IN A SEA OF RED!)
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"As I see it, we've gained 3 judges we would have gained had the rule been changed, lost 2 we would have otherwise gained, and the filibuster lives, only to be triggered if an "extraordinary" candidate -- i.e., an originalist -- who is nominated by the president, approved by the ABA, and is voted out of committee reaches the Senate floor."

-Levin

We were snookered. All that is left to do now is defeat the RINOS. This deal gave the donks just what they wanted.

36 posted on 05/24/2005 5:55:14 AM PDT by Truth Table
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The Washington Post owns John Warner.


38 posted on 05/24/2005 5:56:20 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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Let's keep waiting and waiting for Bush to be allowed to fill slots in the federal judiciary with conservative judges with a compromise here and Democrats allowing one or two there. Before too long Republicans won't have a President to fill those slots anymore - it might be Hillary in his place and, of course, Republicans will passively sit back and consent to all of her far-left nominees - the filibuster the pusillanimous seven have worked so hard to preserve as a "right" won't even be an option.


44 posted on 05/24/2005 5:58:51 AM PDT by Catphish
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I'll give you credit for courage posting this, what with tempers running so high. It is extremely 'disappointing' to say the least to have been the Senate majority party for years and still act like the minority.


45 posted on 05/24/2005 5:58:53 AM PDT by xJones
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Oh ... please!

Ask yourself one redundant question ...

If it looks like, and talks like, and acts like, what could it possibly be?


Take your time. It's a real puzzler.

47 posted on 05/24/2005 5:59:45 AM PDT by G.Mason ( It's people like you, that make people like me, people like you!)
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Before we explode in disgust about the RINO defectors, please consider this: IF the nominated judges get an up or down vote, we win. If a nominated judge gets blocked by filibuster again...

Have to disagree with you. Horse trading with a select few Democrates in the Senate over a few nominations and all future nominations when you could have had all or nearly all of your nominations approved on a full Senate vote is not winning.

Next, there was no filibuster, not a real one.


49 posted on 05/24/2005 5:59:47 AM PDT by BJungNan
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Well, OK. But seething is good.

I want to tell those incompetents that they did a masterful job of...

snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

Losing is not a bad thing if, and only if it is at the end of a good fight; the best effort.

If this is the best that they can do, I am preparing for something else and soon.

I can't follow the hearings. Work and other "useless" stuff. But I want to be prepared to pull the trigger and send off an individual message to each and every RINO on the committee personally thanking them, and personally promising to do everything necessary to make sure they are are defeated or forgotten, whatever the case may be.

Can someone post the names of the Republican Committee members?

50 posted on 05/24/2005 5:59:53 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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I am going to hold my fire on this one. We're getting three strong judges and "extreme circumstances" has yet to be determined. Because that has not been defined, I think it is clear that the constitutional option remains available for use if that definition is applied where it is not appropriate.

And a side benefit is that incumbent RINOs will now actually have opposition in their next primaries and we shall see if the voters really want a change.

Benefit #2, John McCain will never be President.


60 posted on 05/24/2005 6:02:25 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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we can still "pull the trigger" on the constitutional option...this time with "betrayed and outraged moderates" leading the way

Ain't gonna happen. They would have to admit they were fools to agree to the deal in the first place.

61 posted on 05/24/2005 6:03:14 AM PDT by knuthom
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It's too early to throw in the towel, but many already have.


66 posted on 05/24/2005 6:04:53 AM PDT by Always Right
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Altho I am dissapointed I am hoping that when the SCOTUS position opens up GW nominates Owens,Brown, or Pryor. Which the Senate now deems acceptable.Let them try to fillibuster now that they have been cleared for lower court appointments.


69 posted on 05/24/2005 6:05:55 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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Dear Freepers,

I must say it did me a world of good to vent my anger last night! [smile]. Boy I was mad... and I'm STILL mad but at least my brain functions again.

I do agree, that a war has many battles, and this was just one of them. The important thing is to settle down and get organized, and direct the anger to the right place. But just for fun, what are we going to call these 7?

The 7 TRAITORS,
The 7 FROM HELL?,
The 7 SATANS? - LOL.

71 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:11 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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I have a feeling McCain is going to torpedo us in '08 too. He's not going to get the nomination of the party, so he'll run like Perot did, suck away votes, and the dem will win. Just a feeling.....


72 posted on 05/24/2005 6:06:22 AM PDT by b4its2late (It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.)
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What sticks in my craw the most is that if the situation were reversed and it were a democratic President's nominees up for vote, the pubs would trip over their own shoelaces to confirm them. The pubs apparently have no clue on how to act as a majority party.

Screw 'em. They won't get one damn more dime from me until they start acting like the majority they are.
77 posted on 05/24/2005 6:07:58 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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I agree with all except holding fire on the RINO's.
It's great that they came out in the open.

Arrogant and selfish move, it is. They think the Senate is more important than the Constitution, and that the Senate revolves around them.

78 posted on 05/24/2005 6:08:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Sorry, but Ace Mccain has shot down another plane - the RNC plane. All are dead to me.


83 posted on 05/24/2005 6:09:54 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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