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To: jdsteel

I understand what your saying, but to those of us in flyover country all this means is that we will hold our fire while the Republicans sell us down the river again next time and we're told to suck it up again! No, make no mistake, we had the Democrats on the ropes and we let them go. They will now come back emboldened and beat the snot out of us, and the media will gleefully help them.

The Democrats had NO position. They were in the wrong. They dragged out this whole charade. They held no cards but bluffed their way to stealing the dealer blind.

Do you really think the Democrats wanted to go on record and national TV to argue against Pricella Owens? Do you really think the Democrats wanted to go on record and vote against Janice Brown? Of course they didn't. They were scared to death that they might have had to do that, but thanks to the gang of 7, the Republicans saved the Democrats from their self-destruction.

This is an outrage. We have been sold down the river!


29 posted on 05/24/2005 5:53:19 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Obadiah
Do you really think the Democrats wanted to go on record and national TV to argue against Pricella Owens? Do you really think the Democrats wanted to go on record and vote against Janice Brown? Of course they didn't. They were scared to death that they might have had to do that, but thanks to the gang of 7, the Republicans saved the Democrats from their self-destruction.

You're right on target with this. The squishiness of republicans is astounding. I think it's funny how you've got so many people trying to spin this into a win for the pubbies. I intend to remind everyone over and over again as the next general election comes up exactly how useless they are when it comes to actually standing up for a constitutional issue.

76 posted on 05/24/2005 6:07:47 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: Obadiah
we had the Democrats on the ropes and we let them go

We really didn't, and that's the problem.

Until we have a reliable 60 votes in the Senate (like the Democrats had for almost half a century between the 30s and the late 90s), we won't have the Democrats "on the ropes."

The only rational, unemotional, and workable solution is get out there and work hard to increase the number of reliable conservative votes in the Senate in 2006 and 2008.

136 posted on 05/24/2005 6:27:42 AM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: Obadiah
This reminds me of the Gingrich-Clinton backdown.

We have been holding our powder long enough. We have given the GOP, the senate, the house, the Presidency. We have 55 senators. It is not about holding powder, its about taking defeat out of the mouth of Victory. It is about allowing the enemy to escape to fight another day. And...

It is about the President not being in the front lines on this issue. He goes to Calvin College and talks about service, which is all nice and pretty but he needs to help Frist out.
156 posted on 05/24/2005 6:35:49 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Obadiah

AMEN to your post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


188 posted on 05/24/2005 6:47:32 AM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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