Filibuster deal: Freepers, please "hold your powder"

n/a | 05/24/05 | jdsteel

[Common Tator]

There is no chance on the face of the planet earth that Hillary Clinton is going to be elected president of the U.S. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

I'll bet you believed Bill Clinton could not survive his scandals. What part of the co-presidency of Bill and Hillary Clinton had a 58 percent job approval rating the day they left office escapes you. All the polling showed Bill Clinton would have beat George W. Bush in 2000.

Hillary will carry New York, all of New England, the west coast including California. She will carry the same States Kerry did.. There is just one majro difference. Hillary will carry Ohio.

Gay rights, and abortion kept Ohio in the Bush Column. The Republican's in the Senate just blew that voting block. When the Republicans compromised with the Democrats on Judicial nominees they just told their margin of victory in Ohio to shove it. As a result Hillary will carry Ohio.

It will not be close.

[texas_mrs]

"They established that they can obstruct a president for five years with no payback".

As always is the case for the dems - there is never any consequence for bad (or illegal, or unethical) behavior.

They remind me of the situation of the Muslims beheading hostages which gets a yawn from the world, but any humiliation directed at them gets worldwide outrage. Is it not a very similar analagy?

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Bump!

[alwaysrepublican]

That is exactly the point that I tried to make in my vanity thread yesterday.

[katieanna]

I just heard Frist on the floor. He said there will be votes on all nominees and if the obstruction continues, the nuclear option will be invoked again.

[TomasUSMC]

This compromise, will make it almost impossible to get a ProLife nominee to the Supreme Court. The Filibuster is the obstacle that prevents us from saving 3000 innocent unborn babies every single day.

[GB]

Bill Clinton could win the presidency right now if he were constitutionally able to run. But Hillary isn't Bill. She carries too much baggage and is too much of a flashpoint. I predict she won't even get the nomination.

[jackv]

And the republicans???????

I can't understand how it would take a majority to go nucular but 14 can decide on this stupid "compromise".
Seems to me either side can say I didn't vote for that piece of crap!!

[oldbrowser]

They remind me of the situation of the Muslims beheading hostages which gets a yawn from the world, but any humiliation directed at them gets worldwide outrage. Is it not a very similar analogy?

Absolutely.

[GB]

Just like the DU loonies spend too much time sitting around in fear of Karl Rove, the right spends and wastes too much time sitting around in fear of Hillary Clinton.

[skeeter]

I just heard Frist on the floor. He said there will be votes on all nominees and if the obstruction continues, the nuclear option will be invoked again.

It won't mean anything unless he can enforce a little party discipline. Those seven senators agree with Reid Bush's nominees are 'extremists' & will vote them down anyway if it comes to the entire senate.

[alwaysrepublican]

Laz, since you are making it looks so gloomy, can you give the % of Republicans who have already bolted the party? 10%, 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90%? Do you have number?

I will tell you the number, 0.1%.

[Tatze]

I keep looking, but I can't seem to find where the Seven Dwarves are named! I know of McCain, and Collins. Who are the others?

Name The Seven Dwarves so we all know who the traitors are!

[Cincinatus' Wife]

But enough about me.

[jackv]

Check post# 126

[Tatze]

Oops. Found them on another thread:

The Seven Dwarves or The Seven Weasels:
http://mccain.senate.gov/ (202) 224-2235
http://lgraham.senate.gov/ (202) 224-5972
http://warner.senate.gov/ (202) 224-2023
http://snowe.senate.gov/ (202) 224-5344
http://collins.senate.gov/ (202) 224-2523
http://dewine.senate.gov (202) 224-2315
http://chafee.senate.gov/ (202) 224-2921

[shhrubbery!]

I agree on Pryor, I think he'll be a great judge and is a potential USSC nominee, IMHO, but there were some absolutists here willing to throw him over the side and calling him a CINO (conservative in name only) because he personally prosecuted Roy Moore's removal from office in Alabama and because he voted against the Schindlers in the 11th Circuit.

Well I actually agree with your "absolutists" that Pryor has taken some troubling actions.

My point is simply that it's proof that the Dims LOST in this compromise by now "allowing" Pryor, of all people, to slip through to confirmation with hardly a peep.

Dims have let down their most zealous financial contributors/special interest groups (PFAW, NOW, NARAL et al) --who are absolutely incensed over Pryor's statement (calling Roe "the worst abomination in the history of Constitutional law"). Letting Pryor through shows the Dims had no choice but to cave.

[verity]

Not really a perceptive reply in that if you still live in the U.S., you also will get wet.

[firewalk]

outraged moderates...

hahahahahaha!
this is very funny stuff

[mills044]

Excellent point. I was outraged, until I saw this post...

Indeed, we've lost several judges. In return, we'll get the 3 most conservative confirmed. Here's the real questions: WHAT'S IN IT FOR THE DEMOCRATS? The only answer, I believe, is dignity (face-saving).

Point #1: They've (dems) agreed to confirm the "conservative" judges (thereby agreeing they are not "extraordinary circumstances"). Point #2: Dems agreed not to filibuster in the future unless "extreme circs."

DNC top senators must have approached the GOP, and said something along these lines: "Listen, we both know that we (dems) have painted ourselves into a corner. Give us a way out, and you win." Anyone read Sun Tzu? Never back an enemy into a corner without an escape route (granted, there can be exceptions). A fight-to-the-death is what ensues when a beaten enemy has no escape route.

Does this logic make sense to people?

chris