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LIVE Senate Filibuster Thread ~ Day 4
C-span ^ | 5-23-05 | US Senate

Posted on 05/23/2005 8:14:11 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Senate Debate on Nominations Today the Senate resumes debate on the nomination of Texas Supreme Court Justice Priscilla Owen to the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals. The Senate will conduct its first roll call vote of the week at 5:30pm. Follow the C-SPAN networks & C-SPAN Radio for the debate on Senate rules & judicial nominations. MON., 11:30AM ET, C-SPAN2

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ORDERS FOR MONDAY, MAY 23, 2005 -- (Senate - May 20, 2005)

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Mr. CORNYN. I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it stand in adjournment until 11:30 a.m. on Monday, May 23. I further ask that following the prayer and pledge, the morning hour be deemed expired, the Journal of proceedings be approved to date, the time for the two leaders be reserved, and that the Senate then return to executive session and resume consideration of the nomination of Priscilla Owen to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, provided that the time from 12 noon until 1 p.m. be under the control of the majority leader or his designee and, at 1 p.m., the Democratic leader or his designee be recognized; provided that floor time then rotate between the two leaders or their designees every 60 minutes until 4 p.m., at which time the majority leader or his designee be recognized until 4:45 p.m., to be followed by the Democrat leader or his designee from 4:45 p.m. until 5:30 p.m.

The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered.

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PROGRAM -- (Senate - May 20, 2005)

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Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, on Monday, the Senate will resume consideration of the nomination of Priscilla Owen to serve as a circuit judge on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Monday will be the fourth consecutive day the Senate considers the Owen nomination.

Over the past 3 days, a number of Members, on both sides of the aisle, have come to the floor to speak on the nomination. We have conducted over 25 hours of debate, and we will continue on Monday. Moments ago, we filed a cloture motion on the nomination, and that will ripen on Tuesday of next week.

On behalf of the majority leader, I remind my colleagues the leader has announced our next rollcall vote will occur Monday afternoon at 5:30. That vote will be on a motion to instruct the Sergeant at Arms to request Senators' attendance. Senator Frist will have more to say about next week's session on Monday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; 23may2005; constitutionaloption; democratnukereaction; execfilibusterbuster; filibuster; reidsnuclearreaction; ussenate
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To: defconw
Definitely! I cringe every time some Republican senator says, "up or down vote is all we're asking." ASKING? The majority is not in the position where we ASK, we set the agenda! sheez
321 posted on 05/23/2005 10:38:24 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (red, red voter in a blue, blue state)
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To: defconw

I'd rather see Janice Rogers Brown nominated as SCOTUS Chief Justice. I wonder how Donna Brazile would view a vicious attack on JRB? If we can peel off 25% of the Black Vote, our grip on the reins of power in DC will be ensured.


322 posted on 05/23/2005 10:38:44 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Time for Dr. Frist to shove a splinter up the 'Rats ass!!)
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To: ShowMeMom
They have something up their sleeve. Yep, it's two left arms.

LOL

323 posted on 05/23/2005 10:38:59 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
We must not forget, that the advise president in 2008, could be the next presidente in the next election. So, the vice president IS an important position for the FUTURE of the GOP.

I believe politics has changed... It's a different ball game. A lot of the old rules (i.e. the Senate country club [smile]), has changed as well. The Religious right/social conservatives, finally got tired of taking it in the Chin... and look at it flexing its power now. And I predict it will become even stronger and why you ask? (you did asked,didn't you :), because we have NO CHOICE. If we don't defend our values, they will eat us alive.

324 posted on 05/23/2005 10:39:28 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: Txsleuth
There is also a new thread about how Vincente Fox is having a meeting today with Al Sharpton in order for the "two groups" to work together for their "common needs"!!! Oh, my.....

Short the Peso

They'll be printing more of them ...

325 posted on 05/23/2005 10:39:54 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Soul Seeker

Warner of VA isn't to be trusted behind the scenes...he broke ranks and voted against Bork!


326 posted on 05/23/2005 10:40:54 AM PDT by Sammie42
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To: tobyhill
The premise is that Byrd changed rules based on a simple majority ...

Ahhh. I think I get your argument. Byrd changed the rule that set the order of business when the Senate entered executive session, and did so on a simple majority basis; therefore it is okay to change a rule that determines how the Senate arrives at the point where it takes a vote.

... 2/3rds were present but it still only required 51 to change the rules then and that's all it should take now.

In 1975, the "change the rule" rule was in place, as part of Rule XXII. That requires (still in there) 2/3rds of the members present and voting in order to change a rule. It passed with more than 2/3rds of the members present and voting. I.e., the change to 60 votes to get cloture was decided by more than 2/3rds of the enators present and voting, just as the "change the rule" rule reuqired, and still requires.

327 posted on 05/23/2005 10:41:45 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: You Dirty Rats

I'd rather see Janice Rogers Brown nominated as SCOTUS Chief Justice.


I would NOT oppose that! I would applaud it!


328 posted on 05/23/2005 10:42:21 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: So Cal Rocket

"I would love to wake up one morning in America and discover that there are no liberals in America. Just hard working, God-fearing, Patriotic, Flag waving Americans!

It's easy, all you need to do is set your alarm clock for 1776."


You mean when a third of the country was against the revolution and another third couldn't care less?


329 posted on 05/23/2005 10:42:53 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: defconw

No, I think we NEED liberals - at least a few - as examples of the wrong way to think and do things. Otherwise how would we know? As it's difficult to fully appreciate a sunny day if there are too few rainy days. No dark, how do you know it's light?


330 posted on 05/23/2005 10:43:06 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (red, red voter in a blue, blue state)
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To: defconw

Schumer is up!!!!


331 posted on 05/23/2005 10:43:43 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Fudd Fan
On the floor.............
332 posted on 05/23/2005 10:44:03 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: Fudd Fan

No, I think we NEED liberals - at least a few - as examples of the wrong way to think and do things. Otherwise how would we know?


Can't we just have them on DVD!


333 posted on 05/23/2005 10:44:25 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It's my understanding that what they're doing is seeking clarification of the rule, which would be a ruling from the chair.

If they're doing something else, I don't know. They've been shouting all week how there is no rule that judges can be filibustered.

The language is getting muddled.


334 posted on 05/23/2005 10:44:45 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: OXENinFLA

You beat me to it!


335 posted on 05/23/2005 10:44:54 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: rwa265

Why not make the democrats actually filibuster? Why is it in the last congress that they would call up these several cloture votes to end debate on something that was not even being debated. Only in the fake counter filibuster was there any kind of debate. And during all of that, as now, a quorum is not present in the chamber to force the other senators to sit and listen. Why not call for a vote on this option sooner and even if it failed, to call a point of order over an over to draw attention to this. We had Zell Miller and John Breaux in the last congress who would have voted for it. How about denying Specter his chairmanship so these nominations would move to the floor faster. How about putting the democrats on the spot for a change. He's done nothing.

Now we're supposed to cheer him because he does something.


336 posted on 05/23/2005 10:45:03 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: OXENinFLA

#332 Chuckie... LOL!


337 posted on 05/23/2005 10:46:04 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (red, red voter in a blue, blue state)
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To: rwa265
You mean when a third of the country was against the revolution and another third couldn't care less?

I would concede the former but the latter did not have American Idol and ESPN so I contend they actually did care about the outcome.

338 posted on 05/23/2005 10:46:14 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: You Dirty Rats

I thought at the time that Specter's going to bat for Thomas was a CYA move to make up for his opposition to Bork.
Did you know that Specter was the lawyer on the Warren Commission staff that came up with the Magic Bullet Theory?


339 posted on 05/23/2005 10:46:21 AM PDT by Otho
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To: MissMagnolia; All
THE COMEDY OF SENATORIAL COMITY.... SAUCERS OR COTS??

I SAY: BRING IN THE COTS!!!


340 posted on 05/23/2005 10:46:35 AM PDT by STARWISE (Is your voice being heard in Washington? You get the govt. you deserve.U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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