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Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.
NRO ^ | May 19, 2005, 8:15 a.m. | By Penny Nance

Posted on 05/19/2005 11:05:47 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

On February 2, 2003, when seven-year-old Danielle van Dam disappeared from her family home in the middle of the night, every mother’s nightmare was played out on national television for almost a month while authorities searched for the girl. When Danielle’s body was found at the end of that month, the police and prosecutors discovered a frightening story about a neighbor of Danielle’s who had computer files filled with child pornography and even a sickening cartoon video of the rape of a young girl.

According to a report by Robert Peters, president of Morality in Media, on the link between pornography and violent sex crimes, the prosecutor in the Danielle van Dam case said “The video represented [the defendant’s] sexual fantasies and inspired the abduction, rape, and murder of Danielle.” According to Raymond Pierce, a retired NYPD detective who worked on the sex-crimes squad for many years and is now a criminal-profiling consultant, about 80 percent of rapists and serial killers are heavy pornography users. I was a victim of an attempted rape by a disturbed man who turned out to be involved in pornography.

May is Victims of Pornography Month. Today Senator Sam Brownback (R., Kan.), Rep. Katherine Harris (R., Fla.), Rep. Joe Pitts (R., Pa.), and leaders from the values community will participate in a summit to explore the troubling connection between pornography and violence against women and children.

Florida attorney general Charlie Crist advises parents that “we must never lose sight of the fact that sexual predators make the online world a dangerous place for innocent children. Parents must be ever-vigilant to make sure their children are not exposed to images and messages that would have been unthinkable just a generation ago.” Crist warns that we cannot allow the Internet to be a “pipeline for pornography aimed at children.” But while parents can use available means to protect their children when they are in their own homes, there is a cultural climate surrounding our children that threatens them the way Danielle van Dam was threatened. Because of the availability of pornography online, there is no way of knowing what lurks in the hearts of our neighborhoods.

More needs to be done to evaluate the connection between violent predatory behavior and pornography, and to crack down on these violent predators. Police and law-enforcement officers across the country report brutal instances in which those addicted to pornography utilized its sadistic images on their female and child victims.

Just this past February, the New York Times reported a story about a teenage babysitter who had raped three young children he was watching in their homes. According to the Times, his pattern was to watch pornographic videos with the oldest of the children, a 12-year-old boy, and intimidate them all by torturing them with a knife and threats to their family members. Perhaps one of the most notorious serial killers, Ted Bundy, participated in an interview with Dr. James Dobson shortly before he was executed. In the interview, Bundy explained, “I’ve lived in prison for a long time now. And I’ve met a lot of men who were motivated to commit violence like me. And without exception, every one of them was deeply involved in pornography — without exception, without exception — deeply influenced and consumed by an addiction to pornography.”

Since 1956, the Supreme Court has made clear that the First Amendment does not protect obscene materials. If we know from the perpetrators themselves how obscenity contributes to violence against women and children, what can we do?

We need to fund more studies of the addiction to pornography and its effects on violent behavior. Parents can install filters on any computer used by children and keep the family computer in a central location, not in a child's bedroom or someplace where parents might not regularly see it. We need to demand tougher law enforcement on the state and federal level. The Bush administration is stepping up federal enforcement of obscenity laws. This is a good first step. Contact the U.S. attorney for your district and ask what they are doing to enforce the laws. We need tougher state penalties against both possession and distribution of child porn and passing any kind of pornographic material to kids. Experts indicate that pornography is often used by pedophiles to break down the resistance of child victims. Parents should check out their state’s penalties for child rape and make sure offenders are going to jail and staying there for these offenses. Florida, for example, just passed a tough new law after the tragedy involving Jessica Lunsford, whose killer was a recently released violent offender. We should pass legislation to address the threat to children on the Internet. This includes chat sites, websites, spam, and peer-to-peer networks. Peer-to-Peer networks are of particular concern because they are widely visited by kids and offer porn for free without any age verification.

As Rep. Katherine Harris has pointed out, "Pornography displays human beings as objects, obliterating the wall between an individual's sick fantasies and the compulsion to act upon them. Often, the monsters who hurt women and children start with this malignant desensitizer." We need to all work together to find better ways to protect women and children against this violence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: amencorner; artorsmut; daniellevandam; mim; needlebutts; porn; violence
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To: frogjerk; Cultural Jihad
I am not a libertarian and I am proud not to be part of the "everything should be legal, moral relativism" crowd.

Straw man. Are you sure you're not an alternate identity for Cultural Jihad ?

121 posted on 05/19/2005 12:19:25 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Protagoras
Child porn is not art, it is a crime. The rest is moot because of that.

Actually, what the courts have said is that the argument that CP is art is not a defense.
There is no need to argue whether it is art or to revolt at someone calling it art.
It is simply illegal art.
122 posted on 05/19/2005 12:19:52 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: frogjerk
Lines need to be drawn or we will spin into chaos. Moral relativism leads to chaos. Shifting lines in the sand are a tool of the left to break down society.

Society has drawn a line: porn is legal. Sorry you don't like it. Feel free not to participate.

123 posted on 05/19/2005 12:20:09 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: feinswinesuksass
It seems many on this thread are confusing CHILD pornography with ADULT pornography.

Who's to say what the difference is? Who has the authority to say so? In a morally relative society it's anyone's say...Is is merely an age of 18 or does the circumstances change the definition?

Do you mean in a "free" society people decide and vote on what laws should be appropriate and just? I thought a "free" society meant that anything goes --sarcasm.

124 posted on 05/19/2005 12:20:49 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: ElkGroveDan
this kind of pornography

That's the biggest problem with this entire sort of converation. Because everyone's using the word "pornorgraphy," but nobody's bothered actually defining the word, so everyone's arguing about something different.

I've seen the word "kiddy porn" used in a previous post, and I think that it's safe to say that NOBODY here would support the legalization of it (remember, it's already illegal).

But there are some people who feel that Michaelangelo's David and Venus DiMilo are porn, while others get bored reading Hustler magazine. In order to actually have a conversation, you have to agree on just what you're talking about.

Mark

125 posted on 05/19/2005 12:21:57 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: Publius Valerius

Not everything legal is healthy for society. Abortion is legal. Homosexuality is legal. The line has to be drawn somewhere. It may not end in making things illegal but there has to be standards set in society.


126 posted on 05/19/2005 12:22:07 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Publius Valerius
Society has drawn a line: porn is legal. Sorry you don't like it. Feel free not to participate.

Laws can be changed in a "free" society. Sorry you don't like it.

127 posted on 05/19/2005 12:22:46 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: cyborg
"They're both wicked in my mind. Has no place in a marriage, not a christian one anyway."

That is fine for you. Other adults who are consenting don't think your views should apply to them. Muslims think Americans are wicked & have no place in the world....does that mean it is OK to kill us?

128 posted on 05/19/2005 12:23:52 PM PDT by Feiny ( I hate the very sight of liquor, which is why I hide it in my stomach.)
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To: MarkL
I guess the problem is where is the line drawn.

Exactly. We have a line drawn right now. It's drawn at minors only. Everything else is fair game. There are forces at work to erase even that line--by doing away with age of consent laws, etc.

I think a legitimate line could be drawn at "Playboy" type porn. Everything after that--the stuff that shows a gynocological view of a woman, or an 'excited' man, should be banned, IMHO. The auto-sexual pleasure some derive from it is far outweighed by the damage it inflicts on society at large.
129 posted on 05/19/2005 12:23:53 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: cyborg

My point is that the line HAS been drawn. It's legal. That's the line.

You seem to simply that there are no standards--there ARE standards, there ARE lines. Child porn is illegal. Just about anything else goes. That is a line, that is a standard.

Again, sorry that you don't like it. But no one puts a gun to your head and makes you watch porn. Unless, of course, you're in an Iraqi prison camp...


130 posted on 05/19/2005 12:24:03 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: frogjerk

Taking a shower naked is perfectly acceptable unless you do it outside in front of your neighbors. Same thing with reading Playboy. OK indoors, bad outside around the kids.


131 posted on 05/19/2005 12:24:24 PM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: cyborg
I don't care what other people do...

Hey, we have no disagreement!

Just watch the but-monkeys though.
132 posted on 05/19/2005 12:25:06 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: MarkL
I've seen the word "kiddy porn" used in a previous post, and I think that it's safe to say that NOBODY here would support the legalization of it (remember, it's already illegal).

That's not true. Age of consent laws are being quietly attacked--heck, even Ruth Bader Ginsburg (shocking, I know) is against them!
133 posted on 05/19/2005 12:25:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: frogjerk

Ok, amend the constitution. When you're done, come back and we'll debate on whether porn should be illegal.

Don't forget, though, you're the one trying to shift the line.


134 posted on 05/19/2005 12:25:32 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: jimt
I am not a libertarian and I am proud not to be part of the "everything should be legal, moral relativism" crowd.

Straw man. Are you sure you're not an alternate identity for Cultural Jihad ?

We are in the middle of a Cultural Jihad right now.

135 posted on 05/19/2005 12:25:38 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: bird4four4
automobile manufacturers have been held liable for the problems that occur from the use of their product

Look at the Ford Explorer and the Audi stuck gas pedal. There have also been liability cases involving advertising.

136 posted on 05/19/2005 12:25:41 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Paloma_55
If someone wants to imagine sick thoughts..or even draw them for personal use (destruction) I guess its a free country. If they want to distribute their sickness, it should be within the right and responsibility of society to stop that.

So do you support the banning of books by authors like Clive Barker and Stephen King?

Mark

137 posted on 05/19/2005 12:25:47 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: frogjerk
Drinking water and eating bread are socially unacceptable behavior? Your logic makes no sense.

Viewing porn is also socially acceptable behavior.

138 posted on 05/19/2005 12:25:49 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Antoninus
Boy, Protagoras, you sure have the Greek art of sophistry down pat...Please do not refer to me personally.

See the posting guidelines for more information.

139 posted on 05/19/2005 12:26:08 PM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing, I wonder who invented it?)
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To: Antoninus
This topic is one of the more disconcerting subjects that appears on FR from time to time. Christian conservatives largely hang with the Republican movement because of moral and pro-family issues. Libertarian conservatives operate on the principle that all victimless crimes should be abolished, in which they include prostitution, gambling, drugs, and indecency. No Christian would agree that these crimes are victimless, moral, or pro-family.

Ancient Christians were commanded to "Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well." (1 Peter 2:13-14)

Thus we live in a world that largely rejects God's morality and supplants it with its own. We put up with it and work however we can to influence the outcome of the legislative process, but we are outnumbered. We make "friends of the Mammon of unrighteousness" inasmuch as it furthers our opportunities to build the kingdom of God. Yet we understand that that kingdom will not be built from the political machinations of earthly governments.

It is a sorrowful thing, however; to behold an otherwise intelligent and honorable person besmirch his own character by their admission that they like porn and vainly try to defend the indefensible.

Despite the fact that none of us is perfect and all of us have human weaknesses, that is no excuse for us to forsake high ideals. The apostle Paul encouraged:

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

Even if one doesn't believe in a Supreme Being, that's a good standard on which to base one's actions. Pornography falls far short of the mark.
140 posted on 05/19/2005 12:27:09 PM PDT by gregwest
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