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To: Antoninus
This topic is one of the more disconcerting subjects that appears on FR from time to time. Christian conservatives largely hang with the Republican movement because of moral and pro-family issues. Libertarian conservatives operate on the principle that all victimless crimes should be abolished, in which they include prostitution, gambling, drugs, and indecency. No Christian would agree that these crimes are victimless, moral, or pro-family.

Ancient Christians were commanded to "Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well." (1 Peter 2:13-14)

Thus we live in a world that largely rejects God's morality and supplants it with its own. We put up with it and work however we can to influence the outcome of the legislative process, but we are outnumbered. We make "friends of the Mammon of unrighteousness" inasmuch as it furthers our opportunities to build the kingdom of God. Yet we understand that that kingdom will not be built from the political machinations of earthly governments.

It is a sorrowful thing, however; to behold an otherwise intelligent and honorable person besmirch his own character by their admission that they like porn and vainly try to defend the indefensible.

Despite the fact that none of us is perfect and all of us have human weaknesses, that is no excuse for us to forsake high ideals. The apostle Paul encouraged:

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

Even if one doesn't believe in a Supreme Being, that's a good standard on which to base one's actions. Pornography falls far short of the mark.
140 posted on 05/19/2005 12:27:09 PM PDT by gregwest
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To: gregwest
Pornography falls far short of the mark.

So does feeding young children Big Macs. Obesity is FAR more damaging both physically and emotionally to young people yet for some reason theocons choose to ignore it. That kind of destroys the idea that they are really in this to "protect the children".

159 posted on 05/19/2005 12:32:11 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: gregwest
Thus we live in a world that largely rejects God's morality and supplants it with its own. We put up with it and work however we can to influence the outcome of the legislative process, but we are outnumbered. We make "friends of the Mammon of unrighteousness" inasmuch as it furthers our opportunities to build the kingdom of God. Yet we understand that that kingdom will not be built from the political machinations of earthly governments.

And this is different from Sharia law, and muslims attempting to supplant our Constitution, in what way? (other than the fact we'd be living under a Christian theocracy, rather than muslim)

Mark

170 posted on 05/19/2005 12:36:47 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: gregwest

Well done.


485 posted on 05/19/2005 8:03:44 PM PDT by skr (May God bless those in harm's way and confound those who would do the harming)
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