LIVE SENATE THREAD: "Nuclear Wednesday" for judicial nominations: C-span 2 - 9:30 am EST

C-span 2 ^ | May 18, 2005

[ken5050]

Welcome, all you Freepers, to the continuing C-span soap operas about judicial nominations. "The Guiding SEARCHLIGHT, " "As the SENATE Turns, "One NOMINATION to Live" "GERIATRIC Hospital" (for all you Byrd and Lautenberg fans out there). Follow along with us, as the Dems raise the level of histrionics, bloviation, pontification, and all around bad acting to new highs, er, lows...

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

C. Borden Grey just pointed out that IF the fillibuster option really WAS available and had been used before the Dems would have used it on Clarence Thomas! It wasn't and they knew it -- so that's why they had to produce Anita Hill and trash Thomas that way.

That is a good one!

[Timeout]

Yes, that statement by Chris should be given to every pubbie in Washington.

It drives me nuts when I hear the Dems comparing their filibusters to pubbies holding Clinton's nominees in committee.

IT'S CALLED BEING IN THE MAJORITY, YOU IDIOTS! WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MAJORITY YOU CONTROL THE COMMITTEES.

If you follow the dem's "reasoning" they seem to be saying it should make NO DIFFERENCE whether a president has a congress controlled by his own party or not. Oh yeah, right. And yet they get away with it.

[Dane]

The list of democrats who voted against Alberto Gonzales, but are misquoting his words to make crass political points, are reid, kennedy, schumer, murray, and durbin.

[Miss Marple]

I will be counting on the East Coast freepers for complete accounts of Dr. Demento, since I am on delayed broadcast of MTP. No matter how warm and fuzzy Timmy is, you know Dean is going to be an arrogant creep and say something really unacceptable!

I can't wait!

[Bahbah]

C. Borden Grey just pointed out that IF the fillibuster option really WAS available and had been used before the Dems would have used it on Clarence Thomas!

Conservative blacks need not apply...for anything. That should be a good message for Ken Mehlman to take out on the hustings.

[bert]

....Byrd is exhibit A.....

Yep... He and ol Ted are in danger of an appoplectic fit on the senate floor.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

"Breau mumbled around until Chris closed the segment by telling him:

"THE DEMS NEED TO WIN MORE ELECTIONS. GET YOURSELVES MORE SENATORS AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO PLAY THESE GAMES." "

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This is hugh!!!
Probably the best news I've heard all day and I've been hearing a lot. For Matthews to say that..!!! Unbelievable.

[Mo1]

Breau mumbled around until Chris closed the segment by telling him

Did you see how Chris kept hammering Breau saying the interest groups control them

Breau kept saying pressured and Chris kept saying controlled

That if they could vote in private .. they would vote differently and Breau agreed with Chris

[Soul Seeker]

You want the Truth? I would have been willing to work with the Dems. Even accepted some compromises in the first couple of years of Bush's term. But the Dems didn't want that. They went into the gutter, made conspiracy theories the center of their politics and betrayed this country in time of war.

Now my attitude is to make them kneel down and kiss our butts. Not because I enjoy groveling but because they have convinced me they don't have one damn bone of decency in their bodies. I am now convinced they don't care about this country, they only care about power. This is why I think they should be forced to wander the wildness for forty years till they have all died off before being allowed back in the promised land.

They brought me to this point. they convinced me their souls were empty.

[Bush gal in LA]

Hhmmmm, Wonder if an apology is in the air? ...

[AFPhys]

There was an analysis I ran across yesterday from somewhere (NRO, CQ, other FR?) about the Constitution and supermajority requirements.

Essentially, they put side-by-side the clauses having to do with senate advise-and-consent by 2/3 on treaties, with senate advise-and-consent [amount, notably blank with majority implied] on judicial and other presidential appointments. Clearly, the lack of supermajority mention decrees majority is sufficient.

I saw another source, possibly the same one, that mentioned dates that this question was debated in the Constitutional convention. They discussed this with three possibilities: supermajority, advise/consent and president appointment without advise/consent. After discussion, the Framers of The Constitution clearly intended majority advise/consent approval of the Senate in this case to be sufficient, and wrote it that way, and ratified the document in this form.

Up until now (two years or so ago), that was always understood, and it was the only provision ever voted on in the history of the country regarding this issue. If they wish to change that, the Senate and House must muster a 2/3 majority to start to AMEND the Constitution.

That is why C. Borden Grey pointed out that the filibuster was NOT available during the Clarence Thomas process.

[Soul Seeker]

Thank God for Bush.

[Dane]

Who are the six?

My guess, McCain, Hagel, Chaffee, Snowe, Collins, and either Warner, or Voinivich.

[Fudd Fan]

He and ol Ted are in danger of an appoplectic fit on the senate floor

I say we give it to 'em! Hubba hubba!

[Howlin]

Graham is in there, too, so they are reporting.

[Soul Seeker]

I just set the station for the 8:00 repeat. A moment of sanity from Chrissy is definitely a rare occurence.

[Timeout]

That was the most I've enjoyed Hardball since the time Chris tore into Lanny Davis for lying about Paula Jones!

[Dolphy]

Mike Allen from the WashPost is telling Matthews that Bush has said there is to be NO compromise. None.

The President understands why we walked, phoned and otherwise contributed to his campaign.

[Howlin]

I believe you're right.

[Bahbah]

Hhmmmm, Wonder if an apology is in the air? ...

For saying he hates Republicans and everything we stand for? Way to attract people to your party. They still think it's the old days. It's not.