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Fox haunted by comment about blacks
Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | May 17, 2005

Posted on 05/17/2005 4:48:54 AM PDT by tuffydoodle

Fox haunted by comment about blacks

MARK STEVENSON

Associated Press

MEXICO CITY - After a scolding from north of the border, President Vicente Fox said he regretted any hurt feelings over a comment he made about blacks in the United States. But many Mexicans insist Americans overreacted.

In a speech Friday, Fox praised the dedication of Mexicans working in the United States, saying they're willing to take jobs that "even blacks" won't do.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher called the remark "very insensitive and inappropriate" and said the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City had raised the issue with the Mexican government.

African American leaders, including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, called on Fox to apologize.

At first the Mexican president refused, saying his remark had been misinterpreted. But on Monday, after a weekend of mounting criticism, he seemed eager to make amends.

In telephone conversations with Jackson and Sharpton, Fox said he "regretted any hurt feelings" and has great respect "for the African-American community in the United States," according to a statement from his administration.

He also invited the two leaders to Mexico for talks aimed at improving the sometimes tense relationship between blacks and Hispanics in the United States.

No date was set, but the president's office said the visit would be as soon as possible.

Still, many of Fox's countrymen, including the leader of his own party, said the United States had overreacted. They suggested the dispute was a case of overzealous political correctness.

"This is an exaggeration," said Manuel Espino, leader of the conservative National Action Party. "There have been a lot harsher comments that come from north of the border, and we don't scream and shout about it."

Mexicans are frequently themselves the victims of discrimination in the United States and are still smarting over the U.S. crackdown on illegal immigrants, including a border wall in California and limits on drivers' licenses for undocumented migrants.

The fact is many Mexicans didn't see the remark as offensive. Blackface comedy, while demeaning to many Americans, is still considered funny here and many people hand out nicknames based on skin color.

Even Cardinal Norberto Rivera Carrera, the archbishop of Mexico City, criticized U.S. immigration policy as ridiculous and defended Fox's comments, saying: "The declaration had nothing to do with racism. It is a reality in the United States that anyone can prove."

In his phone calls, "the president stressed that the African-American community had led a series of movements against discrimination and in favor of the civil and human rights of minorities," the statement said. Fox "recognized that those movements also benefited Hispanics and Mexicans in the United States."

Jackson said he was sure the president had no racist intent, according to presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar. Earlier Jackson had called Fox's comment "inciting and divisive."

Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said the Mexican government was expected to send a diplomatic letter to the United States on Monday protesting laws requiring driver's license applicants to prove they are in the country legally, and the construction of a border barrier wall.

Derbez also criticized U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Tony Garza, who has angered the Mexican government in part by warning tourists about ongoing violence here.

"What we have to make clear is that it would be best if (Garza's) opinions, which I understand are his own and not those of his government, are not expressed in a public manner," Derbez said.

While Mexico has a few, isolated black communities, the population is dominated by descendants of Mexico's Spanish colonizers and its native Indians. Comments that would generally be considered openly racist in the United States generate little attention here.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; carrera; cary; derbez; fox; immigrantlist
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To: rdb3
Ah! The ghetto bird for an alarm clock. Drives you nuts, doesn't it?

What really scares me is that this particular chopper sounds like it's about to crap out and crash. It sounds like a car that's not firing on all pistons (or whatever it is I mean).

Putt,putt,sputt--couch,cough--sputt,sputt,putt.............TOUCHDOWN!

41 posted on 05/17/2005 5:38:50 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: cyborg
I wish I could have seen what the former poster by the name of turner9302 posted to me. It got yanked quick.

Turner Diaries, maybe?


42 posted on 05/17/2005 5:41:51 AM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: rdb3

That was fast. I didn't even catch it!


43 posted on 05/17/2005 5:43:48 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg
Nevermind! I found it. That troglodyte said:

Blacks are lazy animals. We should send them all to Mexico and let the spics deal with them
.

And for good measure, he then said:

Go back to Africa, nigger

Yep. Turner Diaries indeed.


44 posted on 05/17/2005 5:44:42 AM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: cyborg
Nos. 35 & 38 on this thread.


45 posted on 05/17/2005 5:46:12 AM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: rdb3

That's so tired and played out though. Obviously didn't get any last night or had morning coffee.


46 posted on 05/17/2005 5:47:51 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: rdb3; cyborg; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; FairOpinion


I believe that was one of the suddenly quiet FR posters using a second ID.....

Trying to make Free Republic look bad in the usual pathetic way.....

I'd say using a different IP and location to fog the trail.....


47 posted on 05/17/2005 5:48:19 AM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot)
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To: devolve

Absolutely.


48 posted on 05/17/2005 5:49:35 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: rdb3

Oh good Lord, why does some moron with rocks for brains have to chime in on every thread? Sheesh.


49 posted on 05/17/2005 5:49:37 AM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: cyborg
There are home health agencies getting illegal Mexicans to be home health aides for $5/hr here ON THE BOOKS using fake ids. My mom lost a job to one of these rackets.

Oh, I thought you had made a typo in the other post. D'oh.

Also, she has a very wealthy patient she tends to and he got a letter from the US government inquiring about sponsoring a Mexican migrant to be a housekeeper (a legacy of the Clinton administration!).

Are they sending those letters unsolicited?

Tell your Mom thanks for what she does. My mother would've been lost without the woman who assisted her.

50 posted on 05/17/2005 5:49:54 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

Well here on Long Island, the republican party is the republicrat party. Her employer donated a lot of money to the pubbies and also he's a cheap ass so the letter may not unsolicited. My mother really loves her job and can't imagine doing anything else. She loves the little, old people. Many times people don't have a clue what agencies are paying people though aside from whatever they pay the agency.


51 posted on 05/17/2005 5:52:51 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Tarheel1

"If blacks (whites, or anybody else) were filling those jobs"

You've got it backwards. Cheap illegal labor drives wages down. Controlling the border would automatically reduce the labor pool and drive up wages. Americans would gladly take those jobs at decent wages.
Market forces are driving this issue. We need to make those forces work for us, instead of against us.


52 posted on 05/17/2005 5:54:21 AM PDT by thatsmrfoster2u (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs, and teach my children to pray)
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To: Sacajaweau
What Fox has said has been said many times before...and right here by several politicians.

So you agree with Fox, too?


54 posted on 05/17/2005 6:00:46 AM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: cyborg; Tarheel1
Cyborg, IMO you are right, it is not Market Forces causing the poor Illegal Alien invasion problem. It is the failure resulting from a non-free Mexican/Latin American economy and the lack of US Immigration Law enforcement that distends any Market Force solutions that are available!
It is (so-called) cheap and easy labor that is the root of this problem.
55 posted on 05/17/2005 6:01:56 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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To: tuffydoodle
Vincente Fox and his Trent Lott moment.
56 posted on 05/17/2005 6:02:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Controlled substance laws created the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: devolve; turner9302; rdb3
Bye, turner9302. You racist bigot!

"He's dead, Jim!"


57 posted on 05/17/2005 6:04:19 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: rdb3

That's not what I said and you know it.


58 posted on 05/17/2005 6:09:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: jasoncann; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; cyborg; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; FairOpinion; ...


No, that's because there are so many stealth sleepers here on FR.....

Watch for the poor spelling and odd grammar and awkward sentence structure -

As Travis said last week - with anonomous FR member IDs - they may be posting from Mexico City.....

The "turner" ID was an attempt to throw suspicion onto all the gunowners and the MMP, not the skinhead crazies.....

A very childish and ignorant attempt.....


59 posted on 05/17/2005 6:09:27 AM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot)
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To: Sacajaweau
That's not what I said and you know it.

I know you didn't say it. I asked you if you agreed with it.


60 posted on 05/17/2005 6:10:10 AM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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