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Bills Could Grant Legality To 10 Million Immigrants
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | May 12, 2005 | Jerry Kammer

Posted on 05/12/2005 8:46:37 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds

Sweeping measures face an uphill fight

WASHINGTON – Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate will introduce legislation today that could grant legal status to an estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal immigrants now in the United States.

The bills, which would dwarf previous programs to provide legal status to foreign workers, would give illegal immigrants work permits and the opportunity to apply for permanent residence and eventually citizenship once they pay a fine and fees.

The legislation is certain to raise the temperature of a national debate already simmering over the Minuteman Project's volunteer border patrols and just-passed legislation to deny driver licenses to undocumented immigrants.

The legislation is expected to face an uphill fight in Congress. But it would be a landmark event if enacted.

Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and John McCain, R-Ariz., will introduce the bill in the Senate. In the House, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., will team with Arizona Republicans Jeff Flake and Jim Kolbe to introduce the measure.

The sponsors have scheduled a news conference today to kick off a publicity campaign. It will be coordinated with immigrant advocates and church groups as well as business and farming organizations that want to stabilize their work forces.

Flake said the bills seek to bring immigration law in line with job markets that have become increasingly dependent on illegal immigrants because legal workers aren't filling the jobs.

"The bottom line is we're going to have a need for foreign workers in the foreseeable future," Flake said.

He said Congress has not provided federal officials with the tools to enforce the law because it doesn't want to cut off the flow of workers.

"We can make it legal through some mechanism or we can keep it illegal and keep on pretending we are going to enforce it," he said.

While details are still being negotiated, according to the Denver Post, major provisions include:

After a criminal background check and medical examination, most of the illegal immigrants now in the country would be allowed to apply for a new visa legalizing their status. They would have to pay $2,000 in fines and processing fees for having entered the country illegally. After six years, these workers and their families could apply for permanent residency.

A guest-worker program would allow employers to bring in 400,000 foreign workers in its first year. After that, the cap would be adjusted annually based on demand. The cap could change no more than a fixed percentage a year, sources said, and those workers could eventually apply to permanently reside in the United States.

A new system would be designed to require employers to electronically verify whether their workers are in the country legally and eligible to work. Fines for employers caught hiring illegal workers would double.

"Once a program is in place for employers to get workers, there's no excuse for them not to cooperate," Flake said. "You get a good program and you enforce the heck out of it."

But Frank Sharry, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, said the program must provide enough foreign workers to meet labor needs and enough enforcement to win the support of a public increasingly skeptical about the government's ability to manage immigration.

"Any proposal will rise or fall on whether the legal channels are wide enough and the enforcement effective enough," Sharry said. "In the past it was, 'Let's keep legal channels small, but let's not enforce them too much.' "

The bills' advocates hope that the $2,000 fine will soften the angry reaction that has accompanied past amnesties, such as the sweeping 1986 measure that gave legal status to 2.7 million immigrants, most of them Mexican.

Almost 20 years later, the illegal immigrant population is expanding by nearly 500,000 people a year, according to Pew Hispanic Center demographer Jeffrey Passell.

In 1986, amnesty meant a green card for immigrants who were eligible, either because they had lived in the United States several years or – in a major concession to California farmers – because they had worked 90 days in the fields.

A fight to update that definition has already broken out.

"An amnesty is an unconditional pardon for a breach of law," Flake said.

"That's semantics," said Jack Martin of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which wants to clamp down on illegal immigration. "Any program that gives legal status to people who entered the country illegally or have stayed here illegally after being admitted is an amnesty."

Both sides will eagerly await reaction from President Bush, who last year proposed a program to provide temporary legal status for undocumented workers already here and to match "willing workers" from around the world with "willing employers."

Although the president said he rejected amnesty, he left open the possibility that some of the workers could get in line for a green card. That coveted document confers permanent residence status and the eventual opportunity to apply for citizenship.

Yesterday, White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri responded carefully to a question about the Kennedy-McCain bill.

"The president will work with Congress on enacting legislation that is consistent with the principles he announced last year," she said.

Mark Krikorian, who directs the Center for Immigration Studies, said the White House was stunned at many conservatives' furious reaction at Bush's proposal.

Krikorian, whose organization favors restrictive immigration policies, predicted that Bush will wait to gauge public reaction to the legislation before announcing his position on it.

"There is already a match burning because of the Minuteman program," he said, referring to the volunteer patrols in Arizona near the Mexican border. "They should be afraid that this would throw gas on the fire."


Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. (left), and Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass.,
are working together on an immigration plan.


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To: NewRomeTacitus

Amen!


201 posted on 05/12/2005 11:34:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Is he trying to take a dump or think like a republican?

202 posted on 05/13/2005 3:26:32 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: Travis McGee
Every time I see this guy:

I think of this guy:


203 posted on 05/13/2005 3:29:10 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: Scenic Sounds

What a crock of idiocy!

McCain is insane! These bills are stupid.


204 posted on 05/13/2005 3:32:19 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: raybbr

That man just ain't right in the head.


205 posted on 05/13/2005 7:56:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
"It's high time for a new House Un-American Activities Committee."

Agree completely. Not going to be revived, however; there are too many in Congress now who themselves wouldn't be able to pass muster. Nor could the liberal MSM--can you imagine the hissy fit there?

206 posted on 05/13/2005 12:31:36 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; Travis McGee
As others on this thread have admonished: Never say never. Until the dozer pushes my carcass over the pit's edge I'll consider this OUR country before so-called "civil servants", power intoxicated judges (time for implementing oversight) and invaders whose only right is humane treatment during their swift deportation.

While I'm ranting let me say we should be INsourcing all processes and manufacturing that would prevent our nation from winning an unforeseen conflict, which means a revitalized manufacturing and agricultural base reborn from what we do best: Technology. Companies that resist upgrading for the sake of cheap labor (neoslavery) need to be taxed and SHAMED while their competitors who improve their operations while utilizing native workers should be rewarded with incentive breaks.

In short - a total reversal of this "Race-To-The-Bottom" greed glut that has brought us to these current circumstances while corrupting every level of commerce.

The time window is closing shut. Will average Americans wake up to the fact that their future is being sold out in trade deals and surrendered sovereignty or will they blithely ignore the news for the car-crash morbidity of "reality entertainment"?
207 posted on 05/13/2005 7:37:42 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Skip the court and just deport. Silly aliens, courts are for citizens.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

They won't wake up until the economy implodes.


208 posted on 05/13/2005 8:43:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: thoughtomator

Sen. John McCain, D-Ariz. (leftist),


209 posted on 05/13/2005 8:46:09 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: Scenic Sounds
"estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal immigrants now in the United States. "

Estimates... Two million spread...

America doesn't even know how many illegals we have, and pols are pushing to give unknown persons sanctuary? And they have the audacity to claim it's in the name of security.

210 posted on 05/13/2005 8:49:09 PM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
First, I agree with everything you said. In addition to the very valid point you raised about revitalizing the manufacturing base so that we are self-contained when it comes to military conflicts, there is something else now transpiring which we need to factor into our thinking: BRAC.

Note the extremely long laundry list of new bases proposed for closure. Kind of makes one wonder doesn't it? That hi-tech lean, mean fighting machine is just ducky, but if the balloon ever goes up with Red China (and it will), we're going to need our military bases and a much revitalized defense industrial base, including the previous and unparalleled subcontractor/supplier base.

211 posted on 05/14/2005 12:41:27 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

Not only does the man refuse to defend our sovereignty, he helps weaken it's remaining defenses.

Novus Ordo Seclorum.


212 posted on 05/14/2005 4:01:54 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (A nation's not a business and we're not expendable employees.)
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To: Joe Brower; Tacis
Americans are afraid to ask, "What next?"

The Mexican government now publishes a book instructing its nationals on how to be an illegal.

Ironically, one of the big selling points of the NAFTA deal was that it would greatly alleviate illegal Mexican border-jumping......but since that time it has skyrocketed.

Adding insult to injury American taxpayers are subsidizing foreign aid transfers to Mexico. The government of Mexico---with all of its oil revenue----needs to be taking care of its own people, "outsourcing' them as wards of American taxpayers. Mexico can well-afford it.

Mexico has more "Forbes" billionaires, 11, than all but eight other nations. It has more billionaires than Saudi Arabia, Switzerland or Taiwan. It also has more than 85,000 millionaires.

According to a CNN report, Mexico sits on oil reserves worth about $400 billion, but Mexico's state-owned oil company, Pemex, doesn't have the investment funds to tap those reserves, and Mexico's Congress refuses to allow foreign investment in Pemex.

According to Visa International--which is now clamoring for a share of the transfer fees--American money sent South of the Border by illegals constitutes $38 BILLION this year alone constituting Mexico's second largest most profitable industry.

America should mandate proof for all cash transfers out of the US and/or force all transferring agencies -- banks, credit unions, Amex, Western Union to collect a substantial withholding tax -- 50%, say -- on every unexplained foreign remittance.

America needs to seal our borders and let Vincente Fox know that we will cut off every penny in aid he gets from the United States.

Fox's elitist, unmitigated contempt for working-class Americans cannot go unchallenged.

213 posted on 05/14/2005 4:07:56 PM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: Travis McGee
"FIRST build a real security fence, and THEN come talk to us about other options."

Absolutely correct. Without stopping the huge flow of new illegals, this bill is laughable....as well as those that put it forth.

214 posted on 05/14/2005 4:14:36 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: TheLion
"Don't worry Charlie Brown, this time we really really will tighten up the border, and go after employers who hire illegal aliens.

"Next year, right after we pass the guest worker amnesty for 10 or 12 million illegal aliens."


215 posted on 05/14/2005 8:41:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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