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Awesome...people still think the scandal in the church is mainly one of pedophilia when the reality is homosexuality was the primary culprit.
1 posted on 05/02/2005 7:25:14 AM PDT by worldclass
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2 posted on 05/02/2005 7:26:00 AM PDT by worldclass (www.massright.com)
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Great news.


3 posted on 05/02/2005 7:26:10 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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This is just the beginning..he is going to be very strict and hardcore to the old ways of thinking. Some joke that he may even bring back Latin masses. But he is going to be tough as nails.
4 posted on 05/02/2005 7:28:57 AM PDT by mistress_of_tantra (Only when the last tree is dead, The last river damned, Will we realize that we can't eat money...)
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I hope this is truly what is going to happen and not some lazy reporter just half arsing a story. Some diocese' in the American Catholic Church are completely run and owned by active homosexuals.... it is like a YMCA fraternity.. Rome must PURGE this blackness from the church... I hope that this is going to come to pass.

Most lay Catholics have no idea how infiltrated and corrupted some of these diocese are.


5 posted on 05/02/2005 7:29:01 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Believe it or not the moves in the Catholic Church will help stiffen the conservative Protestants and their churches who are also under assault by the homosexuals as well!


6 posted on 05/02/2005 7:29:32 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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Of course its homosexuality.. its not Pedophilia. If it were Pedophilia, first off the victims would not be 12 to 17.. they'd be much younger... and secondly if it was purely pedophilia there would be female victims as well... Priests have access to young girls even more so now than ever in the past.


8 posted on 05/02/2005 7:30:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Talk is cheap.

I'll be impressed when I see some ACTION coming out of the Vatican to address this.


9 posted on 05/02/2005 7:30:42 AM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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If that's the case the Catholic church might as well disband the Jesuits.


10 posted on 05/02/2005 7:31:14 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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This was posted earlier but it is such great news it deserves to be posted again.

Maybe after homosexuals are purged from the Catholic church we can purge them from all of society.
14 posted on 05/02/2005 7:32:02 AM PDT by coffeebreak (Judicial activism is destroying this country.)
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To destroy the Velvet Mafia a lot of heads are going to have to roll. Good.

History will say that the greatest stain upon the record of Pope John Paul II was how under his watch the Velvet Mafia was allowed to foment a scandal of such proportions that the moral voice of the American Catholic church has been deeply wounded.


15 posted on 05/02/2005 7:32:24 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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Last night on EWTN was a program called Catechism. The guy who was lecturing, I guess a monk, was really great. He said 'look, it might be tempting to take the I'm ok you're ok approach with homosexuals because we love them. But, only the truth can set you free, and the truth is that it is a sin. We all have a cross to bear, and for homosexuals, it is a life of celibacy, just as it is for me."

It was really great.

21 posted on 05/02/2005 7:37:46 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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God will not abandon His people. If He still considers The Catholic Church to be His people He will strengthen it. God bless Pope Benedict for this action!
26 posted on 05/02/2005 7:40:38 AM PDT by stevio (Remember 9/11 by buying a 1911)
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The Pope needs to bring the hammer down and clean the mess up.


43 posted on 05/02/2005 7:54:45 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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What is the difference between homosexual and a pedophile who targets boys?
49 posted on 05/02/2005 8:00:44 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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De-homosexualization of the Catholic Church

Uh...good luck with that.

50 posted on 05/02/2005 8:01:03 AM PDT by biblewonk (John 2:4 "Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me?...)
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Awesome...people still think the scandal in the church is mainly one of pedophilia when the reality is homosexuality was the primary culprit.

finally..... thank you Lord. Somebody is saying what is KNOWN about the problem.

Now let's deal with it. The Lord will forgive us if we ask and are truly penitent, but first the ones that have bastardized the church into a gay-socialist/marxist organization need to be given a boot to the a@# and clean up the mess they've left behind.

58 posted on 05/02/2005 8:11:49 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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"the reality is homosexuality was the primary culprit"

MICHAEL "How bad do you think it's gonna be?"

CLEMENZA "Pretty g*ddamn bad. Probably all the other Families will line up against us. That's alright --
this thing's gotta happen every five years or so -- ten years -- helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one. You know you got to stop them at the beginning, like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, They should never've let him get away with that. They were just asking for big trouble. You know, Mike, we was all proud of you -- being a hero and all. Your father, too.

Benedict will be a hero if he cleans up the Anerican Catholic Church.


59 posted on 05/02/2005 8:13:59 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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I am not Catholic, but at one time I was considering joining the church and becoming a priest. Then I discovered girls and realized I could save myself and the church a lot of problems by looking for another line of work.

This is not solely a problem of the American Catholic church it is a worldwide problem.

It is also not a problem solely of the Catholic Church. Our Protestant churches have the same kind of problems. There are a lot of ministers out there who can't keep the fly zipped up too.
63 posted on 05/02/2005 8:16:16 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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IF this article is true regarding what the Holy Father (Ratzinger) may actually do, then we should support him on this.

Regardless, shouldn't we FReepers be focused on the "De-homosexualization" of the Bush Administration instead of the underhanded Church bashing implicit in the article author's critique of John Paul the Great?

Okay, FReepers, now's a good time to OUT the pro-homosexual members of the Bush Administration, especially those who have dissuaded the President from pushing a constitutional amendment clarifying marriage as between a man and a woman, only.


69 posted on 05/02/2005 8:27:30 AM PDT by MagnusMaximus1 (Molon Labe!)
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A very prominent priest in our area mentioned that 80-90% of the abuse problems are homosexual related vs. pedophilia, based on the fact that most is directed at post--pubescent teenage boys, not pre-pubescent children (which is by definition what pedophilia is). It's also rarely a case of a priest preying on a girl -- almost always boys.

When a 22 year old college frat boy hits on an 15-17 year old high school girl, most wouldn't consider it pedophilia (except for perhaps in a legalistic sense). It would be a case of a man acting like a scumbag, not controlling his sexual urges, and exposing himself to a charge of statutory rape.

But when a priest targets a boy in that same age range, everyone calls it pedophilia because they are afraid of offending the homosexual community.

Just like there are heterosexuals that are pathetic sexual preditors, it may pain people to hear it, but there are also homosexuals that are pathetic sexual preditors.

This isn't a rant against homosexuality, it's just a rant against any group who won't admit that some of their members have the capacity for immorality.


74 posted on 05/02/2005 9:11:32 AM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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