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De-homosexualization of the Catholic Church
WorldNet Daily ^ | 5/2/2005

Posted on 05/02/2005 7:25:14 AM PDT by worldclass

Noting that in his Good Friday homily soon-to-be pope Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger condemned the "filth there is in the church," Wheeler believes the pontiff "will not tolerate [homosexuality's] presence in his church."

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To: WriteOn
"Just compare the 2 confiteors. That's the tip of the iceberg. One relegates the saints to a second thought..."

I am getting frustrated with the dead silence from pastors about Saints. If we don't have the Saints held up as living models of faith soon I fear THE END IS NEAR!!! Along with the loss of the sacred in Liturgy, this dissing of the Saints is a great travesty.
181 posted on 05/02/2005 3:32:52 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: maryz
Too many homosexuals go for boys over 13 or 14.

Which makes them ephebophiles, the proper name for chickenhawks.

182 posted on 05/02/2005 3:32:59 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Petronski

Subtle and very incisive point. "Imposition" is done by people who occupied an office which 'used to be called' "the Inquisition."

They are "hard-liners"


183 posted on 05/02/2005 3:34:58 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Your first assumption is wrong. Most priests these days do not know Latin. Those who know it fall into two categories: they love it, having learned it outside the seminary/ they love it, having learned it IN the seminary and realizing its utility and beauty; OR--they learned it in the sem and absolutely hate it.


184 posted on 05/02/2005 3:38:07 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: AAABEST

"...particulars of interpretation of arguable areas of dogma and doctrine."

In the words of the Great Communicator, "There you go again."


185 posted on 05/02/2005 3:40:17 PM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: Wonder Warthog; Mershon

Besides Mershon's excellent points--Latin, like Hebrew, Koine Greek, and Old Slavonic/Church Slavonic, is a "sacred language."

There is much to be said in favor of such--sort of like stained-glass windows, silence during parts of the Mass, and really good music--not the Mr. Rogers tripe.


186 posted on 05/02/2005 3:40:20 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Lady In Blue
There are still some good JESUITS around

At last count, USA-based good Jebbies number 12.

187 posted on 05/02/2005 3:41:23 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: sinkspur
Latin didn't exactly set the African Church on fire 40 years ago, did it?

Better check your numbers, Sink.

188 posted on 05/02/2005 3:42:42 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: longtermmemmory
No they won't go easily; the American Catholic Church is infested with gays. But I do hope this Pope is as tough as he's being made out to be. The Church as an institution cannot move forward until this ongoing culture of homosexuality is removed once and for all....

For this and for no other reason, I wish this Pope the very best in good health and he has my prayers and best wishes.

189 posted on 05/02/2005 3:44:31 PM PDT by Dazedcat
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To: SuziQ; mistress_of_tantra

One only needs to WATCH B-16's public Masses to know what language he favors. For that matter, B-16 wrote the script for JPII's funeral Mass.

Latin, latin, latin, and MORE latin.


190 posted on 05/02/2005 3:45:12 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
Better check your numbers, Sink.

In comparison to the last 20 years, conversions in Africa pre-Vatican II were anemic.

191 posted on 05/02/2005 3:45:14 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Mershon; sinkspur

I will never forget being part of the Schola at a church music conference hosted by Christendom College. We sang a high Mass in the lower church at the Shrine. Directly in front of me, in the congregation, was a woman wearing a sari and obviously from Africa.

She absolutely BELTED out the Ordinary of Mass VIII with the choir.

This was in the early/mid 1990's.


192 posted on 05/02/2005 3:47:58 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: sinkspur

You do recall that Mgr. LeFebvre was considered the single greatest missionary to Africa of the XXth Century, sinky?


193 posted on 05/02/2005 3:48:57 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: AAABEST

It's nice to be nice.

But with me, it's not habit-forming.


194 posted on 05/02/2005 3:51:20 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
In the words of the Great Communicator, "There you go again."

I don't remember ever corresponding with you... don't even know your screenname. Maybe you could be a bit more clear, instead of posting cryptic one-liners can't be made sense of.

At this point I have no idea where I've went again.

195 posted on 05/02/2005 3:52:45 PM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: NYer
Pity this poor fellow, below.

He's going to have to either get with the program and come aboard, or make his own way rowing his own little boat. Benedict XVI is not going to be some big maitre'd to One Big Moral-Theological Smorgasboard where some selfish, self-centered American Catholics can just pick and chose the doctrines that sit well with them and leave the rest on the table. They either follow the Church and Jesus, or they will be out in the cold where they can continue to embrace their own libertine lies against Nature:

....."For some members of the (St. Peter's Square) crowd, Ratzinger was a profound disappointment. As the announcement came, Brian Bennett, 49, began shaking his head. "I think this is a disaster," said Bennett, a political consultant and writer from Long Beach, Calif., who grew up in Merrick and flew to Rome April 4 for John Paul's funeral. Bennett said he did not agree with some of John Paul's conservative teachings but respected him for his peace-making efforts. Ratzinger is not who Bennett had in mind as a successor to John Paul, though. "He reinforces the exclusion that has kept gay Catholics like me out of the church," Bennett said. "Cardinal Ratzinger was the one who wrote the doctrine that says homosexuality is intrinsically evil. Do you really think that gays and lesbians will come back to the church now that he's Benedict XVI? I just hope and pray that the Holy Spirit will open his heart."

May the Lord have mercy.

196 posted on 05/02/2005 4:06:56 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: Aquinasfan

"He's one of my favs. My girls are afraid of him though. I guess his voice and demeanor scares them. I kid them about it, telling them in my best Bela Lugosi voice, "Father Corapi is coming to get you!"


That's a good one!! I absolutely LOVE his voice! Very strong. His story is still one of my favorites. My kids know who he is now because I quiz them everytime he's on the radio! ;-)


197 posted on 05/02/2005 4:09:35 PM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: ninenot

I stand corrected if that is so. I think it's shameful if a majority of Catholic priests do not know Latin.

Latin is, however, the root of many languages and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to be treated as any other language in which the mass may be offered.
Do all priests know Spanish, Italian, German, French, Vietnamese,etc,etc?
I still have my Latin missal. I could read it aloud- perhaps the pronunciation would not be perfect, but I could read it. Why couldn't a priest?
Why is Latin-as a language- bad? Because it's 'dead', obscure?
Togo is obscure, so is Swahili. Mass offered in either of those languages is ok- but you prefer the Latin language and you're bad?


198 posted on 05/02/2005 4:21:05 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Dear ClearBlueSky,

Mass is offered in Latin right now, in many dioceses. In my own archdiocese, besides three old rite Masses said in Latin, there are also new rite Masses said in Latin weekly, including one at the cathedral, often by Cardinal McCarrick.

As well, in our archdiocese, the cardinal has been encouraging of pastors who wish to say the new rite in Latin. Our own pastor tried this last year, with the cardinal's encouragement. But after a few monthly Latin Masses (new rite), interest faded away, and it was discontinued.

Perhaps the reason why more Masses aren't offered in Latin is because folks prefer the Mass in the vernacular.


sitetest


199 posted on 05/02/2005 4:30:42 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

It is precisely because of affection for tradtion that some want to hear mass in Latin. It is what we grew up hearing. The fact that you went into church and communed with God in a mysterious language that was NOT what you used every day added to the awe.
What is wrong with wanting that feeling now? What is wrong with wanting to worship the way your parents, grandparents and ancestors did? No one will be forced to endure a Latin mass if it is offered as any other non-English masses are.
Why NOT let those for whom hearing the liturgy in Latin means something special have it? Who does it harm?

Is translating the mass into Latin any worse than translating it into Vietnamese or Croatian or Urdu?
Why is this ONE language being treated differently than any other? If mass is offered in many languages for the comfort of the faithful, why not in Latin for those of us who feel at home with it?
Who is threatened by Latin mass, and why?
I'm sure God hears us in all languages. He doesn't care how you speak to Him, as long as you do.
He listened to Latin for thousands of years. I don't think if offends Him now.


200 posted on 05/02/2005 4:38:36 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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