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To: CHARLITE
It is posts like this one that scare me the most. I will not expound upon how I am frightened as this would just become one more disagreement between two people who both love America but disagree on how to protect the great country we have. I truly believe that Is real is more of a threat to the United States than any given Islamist country. The way Isreal has treated Palestine is certainly the largest cause of the grief in the middle east.

Squire Eaton
169 posted on 04/28/2005 4:45:50 PM PDT by Squire Eaton (Squire Eaton)
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To: Squire Eaton
"The way Isreal has treated Palestine is certainly the largest cause of the grief in the middle east.

.....hmmm-m-m. And what role did the disgustingly corrupt Yassir Arafat (and his equally corrupt inner circle) have in the "grief" of the Palestinians, the endless murder of Israeli citizens, and the decades of unabated destabilization of the middle east?

For one thing, if he and his Paris-based wife could have possibly made ends meet on - say - $200 million out of the billion they stole from U.S. financial aid, perhaps the plight of the Palestinians whom he played like an old, but functioning violin........would have improved.

Char

170 posted on 04/28/2005 4:58:56 PM PDT by CHARLITE ("People are not old, until regrets take the place of their dreams." - John Barrymore)
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To: Squire Eaton

THE FIRST PALESTINIAN STATE

Oh. You didn’t know there was a First Palestinian State?

It’s not necessary to go back to 1964 when, with Egypt’s help, the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization) was formed - with the sole intent of engaging in terror for the purpose of conquering the Jewish State, with the assistance of all the Arab/Muslim nations. Those goals of the PLO have not changed.(1) Yasser Arafat was elected Chairman of the PLO in 1969.

Arafat and his terrorists ended up in the Kingdom of Jordan after a series of unsuccessful wars by the Arab/Muslim nations against Israel. There, they arrogantly walked the streets of Amman well-armed and with supreme confidence. They intimidated the people of Jordan. Between 1967 and 1971, the PLO challenged King Hussein for political control of Jordan. Hussein made 26 agreements to keep the Peace. Arafat signed them all and broke them all. The last straw would be when Arafat put out a kill order for King Hussein’s brother, who commanded the Jordanian Army and, particularly, the special Bedouin troops who had clashed numerous times with Arafat’s thugs. This was not going to be Arafat’s State by coup d’etat, but it was a lesson in his MO (Modus Operandi).

Hussein’s Army was called up and a memorable slaughter of Arafat’s followers took place, an event the Arab Palestinians called "Black September".(2) The major conflict began in September 1970, but took 17 months until Arafat’s terrorists fled, mostly into Lebanon. However, many crossed the Jordan and were rescued by Israeli settling pioneers on the west side of the Jordan River.

In Lebanon, the Arab Palestinians were greeted with open arms by their so-called brother Arabs. It was a case of mistaken identity, which the Lebanese did not know then was a one-sided hudna (time of false peace, rest and re-arming for Arafat’s terrorists). To this day, the Lebanese people bitterly regret opening their borders to Arafat’s Arab Palestinians.

Then, it began. Arafat first established the parameters of a terror state much as they started to do in Jordan before Black September. Wherever they gained critical mass in numbers and arms, that area of the city or country became theirs. Every street corner was an Arab Palestinian ‘checkpoint’ to collect pass-through money, but also, frequently, to rape women passengers, steal cars and extort whatever they wanted. As in Jordan, Arafat’s Arab Muslim Palestinian gunman acted as conquerors, threatening everyone, looting and taxing through terror.

As Arafat expanded his control over Christian and Muslim Lebanese, they too became part of the conflict that became a 12-year Civil War, killing 100,000 Christian and Muslim Lebanese.

Lebanon had once been called the Paris of the Middle East, the Garden of Eden spot for vacationing Arabs, with a Banking Center for the Arab world - but all that was destroyed. The Christians and Muslims had worked out a ‘peaceful, political accommodation’ to run Lebanon and, particularly, Beirut. Arafat had stirred them up, so now they were bitter enemies, attacking each other and fighting Arafat’s Palestinian Mini-State of Terror. The killings went on day and night, with whole villages massacred, with a retaliatory massacre soon after. Arafat turned the various Arab refugee camps into his bases of operation. Weapons and explosives were stored in apartment building, hospitals and schools, using the civilians as human shields.

As confusion and terror reigned, Arafat continued to expand his mini-State of Palestine with the presumption that one day all of Lebanon would be a Palestinian State.

Arafat’s methods were a mirror image of what Americans found in Iraq, particularly Bagdad, where Saddam’s family and Republican Guards wreaked havoc. Granted, Saddam’s regime was larger and very well-funded, but the hideous brutality was virtually the same.

Arafat’s gunman roamed the streets with modified pick-up trucks, manned with 30-50 caliber guns mounted in back. They were looking for various factions of Christian militia to gun down, but Muslims were also shot dead - as were any of the few Jews who still lived in Lebanon. (By that time, the Arab/Muslim nations had ejected almost all of their Jews (approximately 800,000) and had confiscated all their property and assets - personal and community. In effect, this was a replay of Hitler and Europe’s confiscation of all that their Jews owned.)

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171 posted on 04/28/2005 5:09:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Squire Eaton

How is Israel a threat to the US? It was not Israelis who piloted planes loaded with innocent people into the WTC and Pentagon. Israel is the only true friend America has in the Middle East.

And that you can compare the treatment of Israeli citizens at the hands of the Palestinian jihadists with Israel's tempered response is incredible to me. I suppose machine gunning Israeli children cowering under their beds is an acceptable form of "resistance"?


194 posted on 04/30/2005 8:09:10 AM PDT by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Squire Eaton; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; King Prout
It is posts like this one that scare me the most. I will not expound upon how I am frightened as this would just become one more disagreement between two people who both love America but disagree on how to protect the great country we have. I truly believe that Is real is more of a threat to the United States than any given Islamist country. The way Isreal has treated Palestine is certainly the largest cause of the grief in the middle east.

WTF?!?
195 posted on 04/30/2005 8:10:28 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (MikeinIraq in 2020!!)
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To: Squire Eaton; MikeinIraq; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; ...
It is posts like this one that scare me the most. I will not expound upon how I am frightened as this would just become one more disagreement between two people who both love America but disagree on how to protect the great country we have. I truly believe that Isreal is more of a threat to the United States than any given Islamist country. The way Isreal has treated Palestine is certainly the largest cause of the grief in the middle east.


196 posted on 04/30/2005 8:18:05 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Squire Eaton
Gee, I could say that the Palestinian suicide HOMICIDE bombers aren't people but are more like wild animals, but that would be a high insult to animals everywhere...........



Mark Steyn Link Excerpt:

Just as revealing was the reaction from the European media. In the American press, you read things like: "An observer to the bomb-blast scene described a dead young girl, perhaps 10 or 12, lying on the ground with her eyes open, looking as if she was surprised." For Europe, on the other hand, the main significance of this development was that it was "unhelpful" to the "peace process". Before I'm accused of being more upset about dead Jewish than dead Muslim kids, let me say that I take people at their own estimation: in the Palestinian Authority schools, they teach their children about the glories of martyrdom; indeed, the careers guidance counsellor appears to have little information on alternative employment prospects; at social events, the moppets are dressed up as junior jihadi, with toy detonators and play bombs. It's not that I place less value on Palestinian lives, but that Chairman Arafat and his chums in Hamas do. So does Saddam Hussein, whose government (the subject of an admiring article in this week's Spectator) gives $25,000 to the family of each Palestinian suicide bomber. So does the Arab League, which at last year's summit passed a resolution hailing the "spirit of sacrifice" of the Palestinian "martyrs" and thus licensed Wednesday's massacre. As for the "peace process", those Europeans who, just a few months ago, were urging the Americans to cease operations for Ramadan evidently feel no compunction to demand from Chairman Arafat and his dark subsidiaries any similar "bombing pause" for Passover.

In the days after September 11, we were told that Muslims had great respect for their fellow "people of the book" - ie, Jews and Christians. This ought to be so: after all, the dramatis personae of the Koran include Abraham, Moses, David, John the Baptist, Jesus and the Virgin Mary. It's one thing to believe that the Israelis are occupiers and oppressors and that the Zionist state should not exist. But no Muslim with any understanding of his shared heritage could in good conscience blow up a Passover Seder. It marks a new low in the Palestinians' descent into nihilism - though, as usual, the silence of the imams is deafening. As for the nonchalance of the Europeans, that too should not surprise us: in my experience, the Continent's Christians, practising and nominal, find the ceremonies of Jewish life faintly creepy, notwithstanding that these were also the rituals by which their own Saviour lived.

But this year, when the Christians' solar calendar and the Jews' lunar calendar have coincided and Easter and Passover fall together, it's a safe bet that George W Bush will make the connection. The first time I ever heard him speak, he spoke openly about his faith and about Christ in a way that would be unimaginable for a British politician. He will know all the details - "the baby tried to crawl away, but it died, too".......................


Before I'm accused of being more upset about dead Jewish than dead Muslim kids, let me say that I take people at their own estimation: in the Palestinian Authority schools, they teach their children about the glories of martyrdom; indeed, the careers guidance counsellor appears to have little information on alternative employment prospects; at social events, the moppets are dressed up as junior jihadi, with toy detonators and play bombs.





Israelis are taking the image at face value



200 posted on 04/30/2005 8:25:26 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Squire Eaton
I truly believe that Is real is more of a threat to the United States than any given Islamist country.

What a steaming load of BS.


201 posted on 04/30/2005 8:26:21 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Squire Eaton

Israel would be as flat as St. Pancake without the USA.


204 posted on 04/30/2005 8:31:50 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher (When you lose your fear, you become the people you envied.)
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To: Squire Eaton; MeekOneGOP; CHARLITE
Off our Meds again, are we Squire?
209 posted on 04/30/2005 8:34:00 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Squire Eaton

Ever compare the number of attacks by Israel and Zionists against America and the number of attacks by the UAE nations and Islamofascists?

Or is your point that we make ourselves a target by siding with Israel?


212 posted on 04/30/2005 8:38:12 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Squire Eaton

216 posted on 04/30/2005 8:50:24 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("You would have to double your IQ to be stupid. " --zip)
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To: Squire Eaton
OH, BS. Sheesh. Yeah, let's line up the Jews and gas them yada yada yada...blah blah blah. They live surrounded amongst murderers and people vowed to kill them and us. But it must be their fault.

Take logic lessons from Mickey Moore On?

232 posted on 04/30/2005 12:56:48 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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To: Squire Eaton; ariamne; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; Former Dodger; swordfish71; MeekOneGOP; USF

>"The way Isreal has treated Palestine is certainly the largest cause of the grief in the middle east."<

Oh, you mean by 'Israel' giving the "palestinians" land on which to live at the Oslo accords...after their beloved "brother Arabs" had, down to the last man, refused to give them any?

Strangely, you may be right unintentionally. If Israel had NEVER ceded that land, the PA/PLO would not have had a place to store the weaponry they subsequently used against both Israel and fellow Arabs, never would have had a place from which to launch rocket and mortar attacks...and the Israelis might not now find themselves evicting their own settlers from their own land that they laboured long and hard to improve and bring forth a living from.

Other than that, congratulations on the prefrontal lobotomy. It seems to be working...hope those nasty scars heal up!

A.A.C.


239 posted on 04/30/2005 1:45:58 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Squire Eaton
It is posts like this one that scare me the most. I will not expound upon how I am frightened as this would just become one more disagreement between two people who both love America but disagree on how to protect the great country we have.

Sounds all very liberal, "scared", "frightened". Conservatives tend to get "angry" and "pissed off", and set out to at least attempt to right what they see as wrong, not wet the bed.

I truly believe that Is real is more of a threat to the United States than any given Islamist country. The way Isreal has treated Palestine is certainly the largest cause of the grief in the middle east.

Learn some history before you start shooting, Square. There is no "Palestine".

289 posted on 05/01/2005 3:21:46 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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