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To: Squire Eaton
It is posts like this one that scare me the most. I will not expound upon how I am frightened as this would just become one more disagreement between two people who both love America but disagree on how to protect the great country we have.

Sounds all very liberal, "scared", "frightened". Conservatives tend to get "angry" and "pissed off", and set out to at least attempt to right what they see as wrong, not wet the bed.

I truly believe that Is real is more of a threat to the United States than any given Islamist country. The way Isreal has treated Palestine is certainly the largest cause of the grief in the middle east.

Learn some history before you start shooting, Square. There is no "Palestine".

289 posted on 05/01/2005 3:21:46 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky
I don't agree with Squire's attack on Israel, but as a Conservative, I am "angry" and "pissed off" that FReepers are so willing to attack our Constitutional protections and weaken us against external and internal enemies who might be hoping to turn our American way upside-down.

I don't think that running from the moral high ground down into the mud with our adversaries is the way to go--I'd rather gun them down from our position of strength. One of our strengths of the American system (and of conservatives in general) is that we are an open and free society (using rational, not emotional appeal) that treats citizens equally, not one where internal security apparatus has free reign to operate without demonstrable probable cause.

And as you said, "scared" and "frightened" are liberal responses. It's a shame that Americans would rather act that way--and attack our own freedom--than to fight the true enemies of us all.

Again, I call upon the anti-rights crowd to clearly describe what they actually propose, and how it is supposed to make us safer. What good does detaining and fingerprinting American citizens at the border do, other than help Hillary have more complete FBI files to use (she is a senator, remember) and harass Americans?

291 posted on 05/01/2005 6:26:36 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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