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This is good news, right? ;-)
1 posted on 04/21/2005 4:31:13 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: Scenic Sounds

How are we supposed to make up for the loss of tax revenue?
Oh, wait, the perscription drug market! Sorry, lost myself.


2 posted on 04/21/2005 4:32:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (Rock beats scissors. Don't run with rocks.)
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Think I'll celebrate with my favorite cigar.


3 posted on 04/21/2005 4:34:34 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Chat is my milieu)
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Yes.


4 posted on 04/21/2005 4:35:41 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Scenic Sounds

"Adult Smoking Rate Shows Record Drop"

I haven't contributed to it.
I'm smoking and enjoying every puff from my cig ;-)
Have a nice day


5 posted on 04/21/2005 4:37:49 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Scenic Sounds

This is good news for people that quit, bad news for those that structure taxes to pay for govt services, and I don't believe the numbers. People are embarrassed to say they smoke, and buy smokes at reservations and on the internet so sales don't show to the state.


7 posted on 04/21/2005 4:39:16 PM PDT by jeremiah (In early reports, the sky did fall yesterday, and will fall again today......unless action is taken)
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Watch out toilet paper users....you'll be targeted next for the lost cigarette tax revenue!!!


8 posted on 04/21/2005 4:43:48 PM PDT by borntobeagle
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To: Scenic Sounds

Hey, social engineering really works on Californians. As the Philosopher said, "Modern man is being prepared to live a life of slavery in the most exacting sense."











13 posted on 04/21/2005 4:56:07 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (What this country needs is dirtier hands and cleaner minds.)
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To: Scenic Sounds; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; Cantiloper; ...
This is good news, right? ;-)

Not really. How is the state going to make up for the billions of dollars smoker's pay into the state with their tax dollars? Someone out there is going to have to dig mighty deep into their pockets. Wonder what group it will be next? Think about it.

16 posted on 04/21/2005 5:10:29 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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"These kids are growing up in a world where smoking is not appropriate, it's not fashionable," Stevens said. "They know the dangers and they look at people who smoke and say, 'What's wrong with you?' "




What's wrong with me? Nothing!

A nice little generation of intolerant,rude young libs seem to be growing up in California.

Awful!


21 posted on 04/21/2005 5:16:49 PM PDT by Mears ("The Killer Queen,caviar and cigarettes")
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Since 1988, when voters passed the tobacco tax, California's adult smoking rate has fallen over 32 percent, from 22.8 percent to 15.4 percent.

What a crock of Barbra Streisand.........only an anti-smoker or bureaucrat believes that.

The danged numbers come from sales of tobacco products - just because folks ain't buyin'em in Cally don't mean they ain't using them........

Idiocy - shear idiocy.

32 posted on 04/21/2005 5:41:18 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Good news on balance, but I have mixed emotions.

Like most FReepers, I abhor heavy-handed government tactics designed to bring about behavioral changes -- outright smoking bans in bars and restaurants; "sin" taxes (personally, I think the tax rate on Marlboros, Dewar's Scotch, Shell 93 Octane, and skim milk should be the same); and the constant "you're gonna die if you don't quit doing that" barrage are all annoying.

On the other hand, I hate smoking, and do what I can short of rudeness to avoid smokers. Here in the heart of tobacco country, I suspect the percentage of adults who smoke is closer to 20% than to the 15.4% percent being reported in California. Still, non-smokers form a huge majority, and it's growing. So I would hope that stats such as those quoted in this story would help convince more bars and restaurants to voluntarily go smoke-free. Perhaps if enough establishments made that choice (particularly "high end" places, given the strong inverse relationship between smoking and income levels), government prohibitions might be staved off.

34 posted on 04/21/2005 5:43:02 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (UNC Tar Heels: NCAA Basketball Champions 1957/1982/1993/2005)
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"'What's wrong with you?'"

Well to start of with, you little mind encrusted creation of Kalifornia............


39 posted on 04/21/2005 5:52:52 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (The Good News of the Gospel of Christ really is Good News!)
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California Smokers Use Prohibition Tactics to Get Around Ban

While cops try to sniff out the worst offenders, in many cases they're butting up against organized opposition. Bartender phone trees warn each other of impending busts, powerful fans blow away tell-tale scents of "smokin' in the boys room" and tin cans double as ashtrays in case of an unexpected visit by police.

click here

40 posted on 04/21/2005 5:54:22 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Got my first box of cigars in ten years yesterday. Guess I'll be a trend breaker.


43 posted on 04/21/2005 5:58:42 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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"They [kids] know the dangers and they look at people who smoke and say, 'What's wrong with you?' "

I'd also add, "EEEEWWW!"

46 posted on 04/21/2005 6:28:08 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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22.2 percent to 18.3 percent
22.8 percent to 15.4 percent

Like all good goobermint and NGO goobers, they pull these numbers out of a place that never sees daylight. And it took them a year to find the right 8,000 people to even juggle the numbers.

Everybody knows that 78.165% of all statistics are fabrications... or is it 78.166%? Where's my call list?

52 posted on 04/21/2005 8:55:43 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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"They know the dangers and they look at people who smoke and say, 'What's wrong with you?' "

NO, they don't know the dangers. They know what they've been told by anti-smoker organizations, and the government that's in cahoots with them.
And if they want to look at me and ask that question............"I'm crazy as a loon and I've got a BIG knife. What's it to you?"

61 posted on 04/22/2005 6:18:19 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Monthly donors make better lovers. Ask my wife.)
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It shows peer pressure works.

Funny how when you approach the same people with similar ideas to lower the number of teens engaging in sex, they cry it can't be done.

62 posted on 04/22/2005 11:21:46 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!)
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