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WE HAVE A POPE!!! (Cardinal Ratzinger-Pope Benedict XVI)
MSNBC

Posted on 04/19/2005 8:53:39 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

WE HAVE A POPE!!!


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: benedict; benedictxvi; catholic; catholiclist; conclave; nextpope; pope; ratzinger
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To: concan; Lazamataz
Ratzinger is an outspoken friend of American christians and even said, that Europe can learn from the American example. Ratziger was silent on the Iraq issue because he didn't want to argue JP2's position against the war. Insiders believe that Ratzinger understood and approved the reason for this war. Ratzinger is a true conservative. Another nail in the coffin to the liberalist agenda.

Wow! That makes me hope even more that Benedict XVI lives to be more than 100 years old, even though Laz won't get another shot for a while. But who says Laz won't live enough to see Benedict XVI live to be over 100 years old?
2,101 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:03 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I think he was my first guess when we were predicting...

Can't wait to hear what he will say in his masses, speeches...

what 'message' he will proclaim...

If pope JPll preached a unity of religions,
and this Ratzinger (so far) has preached the tradititional RC doctrine,
it will be interesting to see what happens next...

so fascinating!


2,102 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:05 AM PDT by Gal.5:1 (keep standing firm)
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To: Lazamataz

I will pray for you. I'm sure you are a good person somewhere under that sarcasim.


2,103 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:26 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: 11th_VA

I thought nobody was supposed to know details of the voting. Hmmm. Ha, now the press is calling the new Pope's attitude doctrinaire solidity. Continuity over evolution and reform, clearly bad from the MSM's point of view.


2,104 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:42 AM PDT by hershey
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To: maggiefluffs

2,105 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:42 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Skip1
MSNBC reports that the Holy Father won by four votes!

If they were able to find out that he won by four votes, there are going to be a bunch of excommunicated ex-Cardinals.

2,106 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: Howlin

Surfing the thread, I am so gratified reading your posts-----and your enthusiastic sharing with Catholics at this momentous occasion of naming the new Pope.

Whatever the denomination that embraces you as a worshipper, I dearly hope its members number in the tens of hundreds of thousands.


2,107 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:58 AM PDT by Liz (One of it's most compelling tenets is Catholicism's acknowledgement of individual free will.)
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To: Soul Seeker

This is just what I thought, too. I was holding my breath, and praying for a conservative Pope. And I cried and I laughed and I whooped! when I heard that is what we got. And I speak as a non Catholic, but a member, along with all the Catholics, of the Christian Church, the Body of Christ. This is a victory over evil and the forces that would take apart Christianity, which can only *be* conservative in the true sense of the word, not the political sense. Thank God!


2,108 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:09 AM PDT by mamaduck (I'm a lurker . . .not a fighter!)
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To: CitizenM

FOFL! .. I hear ya


2,109 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:09 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: FourtySeven

That's worth the price of admission right there!


2,110 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:11 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
liberal catholics all over the world N. America and the EU will be crying...but this is the hand of God...
2,111 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:23 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: onyx

Ratzinger seems to be already the Leader of the Church. The Holy Spirit seems to have already been upon him. The College of Cardinals seems to have been guided to simply acknowledge that fact.

Pope Benedict XVI: I take this to mean he does not war, if it can be helped. I take it to mean he looks to the example of St. Benedict in promoting what the Religious Life should be, and in this I think this may be a tremendous sign, which just came to me. I hope that he is the man to knot together the whip with cords and purge the church. I think this is his destiny.

If a German Pope can ignite a revival in Western Europe, that would make this worthwhile all in itself.

The left is greatly saddened. And angered.


2,112 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:29 AM PDT by johnb838 (Santo Subito! Presto!)
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To: expatguy

Is she gone? I so wanted to see a zap!


2,113 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:33 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Rutles4Ever

What reaction to this in Bavaria, the home of the new Pope. When a Polish Pope was selected the media almost immediately went to the Polish reaction. Hopefully this pope can convert the pagan Germans to Christianity again.


2,114 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:35 AM PDT by brydic1
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To: advance_copy

>>And let's not forget, Germans make excellent beer!

Hmmm, beer ... And now the head of the Roman Catholic Church.

Yipeee!


2,115 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:38 AM PDT by Betis70 (Viva Il Papa--Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Integrityrocks
I will pray for you. I'm sure you are a good person somewhere under that sarcasim.

No, I pretty much suck.

Even Jesus hates me.

2,116 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Aquinasfan; Howlin; redgolum
At first I wanted Cardinal Arinze. But the more I thought about Cardinal Ratzinger, the more sense it made. 2,077 posted on 04/19/2005 2:13:57 PM EDT by Aquinasfan

Vocations WILL increase as a result of this. And the mood in Rome among the orthodox and conservative-minded will be VERY upbeat and confident. It will raise morale on the right, no doubt about that.

There will be some smirking and gloating.

2,117 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:53 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: pa mom; cyborg
I have no problem with ascribing to a "middle road" approach. The truth is often "in the middle" with reguards to history. Even with a "scared boy, not willing to fight" kind of viewpoint, it's a long, and ridiculous road to the claim "Ratzinger was a Nazi, and loved his job. In fact, he's a Jew hater even today".

That kind of viewpoint is only supportable by hard evidence. And I have yet to see any.

I still think the article cyborg posted was good, if only to show that it's not an "indisputable fact that Ratzinger was a hard core Nazi, loving every minute of his job" as some on this thread clearly want to imply.

At any rate I'm not going to debate that matter on this thread. This is supposed to be a thread dedicated to the new leader of the Catholic Church. IMO, anyone who comes on here with anti-Catholic screed and conspiracy theories, no matter how "historic" it's (thought) to be, is a tasteless, tactless, jerk.

And I don't care to talk to tasteless, tactless jerks at any time.

Didn't say you were that, btw, so please don't come back and say, "Thanks for calling me a tasteless, tactless jerk, very 'Christian' of you".

2,118 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:56 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Aquinasfan
St. Benedict of Nursia lived at the time of the fall of the Roman empire. Indeed, he was to inherit his fathers senatorial position in Rome, when he decided to give that up and become a hermit, giving his life in prayer to God. He eventually came out of his hermitage to become abbot for a community of monks who were looking for someone to head their monastery, and he became known as a strict disciplinarian. In fact, some of the miracles attributed to him were because the monks of these monasteries decided he was too rigorous in his application of rules, and tried to poison him. The cup with a snake coming out of it speaks of the miracle he performed over a poisoned cup meant to kill him off. The crow that is also associate with him is also from another time when he was given poisoned bread, and he bade the crow take it far away and out of reach so that someone finding it would not be poisoned in his stead.

He was the one that created a Rule of Life that helped establish a means for the monks to govern themselves and to be the holders of law and order in a community that had been left to its own devices when Rome fell.

2,119 posted on 04/19/2005 11:18:26 AM PDT by Alkhin ("Ah-ah," admonished Pippin. "Head, blade, dead." ~ Peregrin Took, The Falcon)
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To: COBOL2Java
You don't know that in 1933 some of the first inmates of Dachau were Catholic priests, Catholic labor union leaders, and Center (Catholic) Party politicians

Blessed Titus Brandsma, for one...

Remember also Saint Maximillian Kolbe, the Saint of Auschwitz

Thousands of Catholics were also victims of the Third Reich.

2,120 posted on 04/19/2005 11:18:27 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Long live Pope Benedict XVI!)
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