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Don't Overestimate Hillary
Opinion Journal ^ | April 18, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT | JAY COST

Posted on 04/18/2005 6:06:12 AM PDT by Huck

Pollster Scott Rasmussen has begun publishing a regular "Hillary Meter." The purpose of this is to track Sen. Hillary Clinton's movement to the political center by determining how much of the American public considers her to be middle-of-the-road. I find this to be a fascinating story, because it says quite a bit about Hillary and her political skills--or lack thereof. It is, of course, gospel that Hillary Clinton is a political genius, or something to that effect. She is so brilliant that potential Democratic opponents are warned by pundits everywhere that she will work her secret devil arts on the poor fool who dares cross her. She is that good. Ostensibly, the only hope that humble conservatives have to keep her from being the first female president is some tawdry book by Ed Klein. I have never understood this.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crusty; hillary; hillary2008; hillarymeter; neverwillbepresident; pantsuit; rasmussen; seahag; shrill; witch
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To: montag813
As Dick Morris has said

Morris is wrong on that one. She will run for the Senate again, because she is basically a shoe-in. And she needs that as the springboard for her Presidential run. To drop out with only 1 Senate term would put her in the 'inexperienced' category as John Edwards was (and will be when he tries to run again in 08).
21 posted on 04/18/2005 6:44:01 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Huck

For The Smartest Woman In The World, she sure can't think on her feet.

Without the MSM mythmaking and propping her up, Hillary is little more than your average city councilwoman.


22 posted on 04/18/2005 6:46:24 AM PDT by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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To: sarasotarepublican
"The same stupid people who elected slick willy not once, but twice, will be a big factor."

Thass raght! All 46% of them. (or whatever) And I hear Ross will be running again, just to screw the Repubs, and McLame will be her VP running mate, and all males will vote for her because they want a female [?] to be president, and the women will vote for her because they envy her so much, and ... ;)

23 posted on 04/18/2005 6:46:59 AM PDT by G.Mason (I post to amuse myself ... why do you post?)
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To: sinclair
"The people who elected Clinton were the people who voted for Ross Perot both times. "

At least you and I got it. ;)

24 posted on 04/18/2005 6:48:52 AM PDT by G.Mason (I post to amuse myself ... why do you post?)
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To: An Old Marine

How true...in the absence of a Ross Perot, GHW Bush would have won in '92 and Billy would still be in Arkansas. Additionally, women voters will not buy Hillary like the liberals think they will. Women want a strong man for the leader, especially in the age of Terror.


25 posted on 04/18/2005 6:55:22 AM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Huck
She doesn't need to be a good candidate. She needs a corrupt media and a voter fraud scheme.

She's got everything she needs.

26 posted on 04/18/2005 6:56:09 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: OldFriend

Kerry had those things. So did Gore.


27 posted on 04/18/2005 6:59:17 AM PDT by Huck (One day the lion will lay down with the lamb; Until that day comes, I want America to be the lion.)
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To: G.Mason

True, I don't see any "conservative"(and I use that word loosely) third party candidate running in '08 except maybe for McCain. He'll be older than Ronaldus Magnus was in 1980, but his ego might get the better of him, and he loves the spotlight. But I don't think it'll happen because I believe he's already said this is his last term in the Senate.

However, the GOP shouldn't underestimate The Wicked Witch of the West Wing. The MSM nearly installed two very bad candidates, Algore and then the Ketchup Boy, in the Oval Office. Their influence is declining, but you can bet they'll go all out for Hitlery. Given that, and the fact that the radical left knows she's only moving to the center for show, she could fool enough moderates into voting her in.

Bottom line, the GOP better have a good candidate ready in 2008.


28 posted on 04/18/2005 7:03:43 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
" ... Bottom line, the GOP better have a good candidate ready in 2008. "

I would think the wheels are well greased and turning as we speak. ;)

29 posted on 04/18/2005 7:06:35 AM PDT by G.Mason (I post to amuse myself ... why do you post?)
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To: Huck

Hillary a political genius? This woman doesn't have the brains to remember where she keeps her files.


30 posted on 04/18/2005 7:06:42 AM PDT by tomball (Did I really post this twice?)
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To: Huck
Yeah, uh-huh, sure but,

Whatever happened to the promise to restore the pix of Mrs. Huck?

; )

31 posted on 04/18/2005 7:07:05 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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Well, you know, the woman is, you know, a dreadful public speaker. And her voice is irritating. And her 'likeability quotient' is low. Bubba', at least, is likeable on some level. I have always thought that she was overestimated but then, my sounding post is as a member of the VRWC so what do I know.


32 posted on 04/18/2005 7:09:30 AM PDT by elli1
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To: freedomson

Well now I'm definitely not going to! :-P


33 posted on 04/18/2005 7:10:34 AM PDT by Huck (One day the lion will lay down with the lamb; Until that day comes, I want America to be the lion.)
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To: G.Mason

Right now, I've got George Allen at the top of my tote board. A milquetoast candidate like Bill Frist or George Pataki won't cut it.


34 posted on 04/18/2005 7:14:57 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: elli1

A Fat Thighed Polorizing Witch will NEVER be President of this country.....And if she even tries to get close to that office again I'll start a campaign to recruit Ted Nugent to go "BIG" GAME hunting.....!


35 posted on 04/18/2005 7:21:37 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: sarasotarepublican

"The same stupid people who elected slick willy not once, but twice, will be a big factor."

That's the truth! I can just hear the stupid sheeple bleating now (ala Animal Farm),

Hillary, G-O-O-D!
Republican (whoever), B-A-D!


36 posted on 04/18/2005 7:25:31 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
"Right now, I've got George Allen at the top of my tote board. A milquetoast candidate like Bill Frist or George Pataki won't cut it."

It is much too early for me to get worked up over this 2008 run, mainly because I have just gotten back in decent shape after the 2004 side show.

With little thought, other than for self self aggrandizement purposes, I would like nothing more than to see Condoleeza Rice, not only run, but beat the living %#*@ out of the Dims.

It would serve two most delicious purposes.

1) The Republic would be well served.

And 2) The race relations in this country would be dramatically improved. The Thomas Sowell's, Walter Williams's and Clarence Thomas's of this world would be listened to more, while the Jacksons, Sharptons and Mfume's would be forced back under the rocks they crawled from.

37 posted on 04/18/2005 7:32:17 AM PDT by G.Mason (I post to amuse myself ... why do you post?)
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To: Huck
Myth 1). Hillary Clinton is a political genius
Myth 2). intelligent, driven wife…she is an enabler
Myth 3). win the New York Senate seat – with the help of a Jewish community who thought she would help them and the released group of terrorists, her win was based on special interests groups and party hacks.
Myth 4). Hillary has become a moderate…just laughable.
Myth 5.) Hillary supports the military – supports Iraq – supports the United States Constitution – supports the Minutemen on our borders – supports Tom Tancredo and his views……………..FACT: Hillary supports efforts to control our borders ONLY because it makes her “seem” interested

Another example of poor calculation is her decision to moderate herself on abortion. Perhaps Hillary thought that this would be a grand "Nixon goes to China" moment. The misjudgment in that calculation is that Nixon was already president
Hillary has always acted like she is the president.

The Clintons are politically astute, that is a fact however, they are also anti-republic and anti-American and that is a FACT. Hillary will not continue the War on Terrorism nor will she think America First or America at all. Her record is one of “we’ll fix that” then follow up her promises and nothing is ever done. It is all rhetoric propped up by the NYT and other liberal/socialist publications, there is NO substance in that pant suit.

38 posted on 04/18/2005 7:35:08 AM PDT by yoe
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To: G.Mason

I'd like Condi too, but unless she learns how to hit the hustings, I don't see it happening. Who knows? Maybe Cheyney will resign for "health" reasons in the next year or so, but if he doesn't, I'm taking that as an indicator that Condi's not running.


39 posted on 04/18/2005 7:43:12 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: sarasotarepublican

Newt can beat Hillary, I think. He is fiery and knows how to fight. No time for a Nice Guy.


40 posted on 04/18/2005 7:46:04 AM PDT by bboop
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