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Look For Extraterrestrial Civilizations (Don't Just Listen) 
space.com ^
 | 04/15/05
 | Bill Christensen
Posted on 04/15/2005 5:27:58 AM PDT by KevinDavis
Should we be looking for extraterrestrial civilizations, rather than just listening for them, as we do in the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) project? That is the suggestion of a French astronomer, Luc Arnold, in his paper Transit Lightcurve Signatures of Artificial Objects. He believes that the transit of large artificial objects in front of a sun could be a used for the emission of attention-getting signals. 
 
 In his paper, he describes the expected lightcurve signatures expected from passing objects of various shapes across a sun. The challenge is to use a shape that provides an unambiguous signature.
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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aliens; seti; space
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posted on 
04/15/2005 5:29:43 AM PDT
by 
KevinDavis
(Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
 
To: KevinDavis
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posted on 
04/15/2005 5:39:22 AM PDT
by 
Ff--150
(But My God shall supply all your need)
 
To: KevinDavis
    I saw a redhead yesterday that was out of this world...... does that count?
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 5:40:30 AM PDT
by 
bert
(Peace is only halftime !)
 
To: KevinDavis
    If I were an alien civilization, I would not expect other civilizations to get a visual bearing on my star in order to detect artificial satellites. That seems to be asking a lot. On the other hand, broadcasting radio signals is relatively easy to do and relatively easy to detect.
 There might be a Ringworld out there for us to spot, but I think the odds favor a galactic radio station playin' all the hits.
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posted on 
04/15/2005 5:43:13 AM PDT
by 
ClearCase_guy
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
 
To: KevinDavis
    Hoagland's already got this covered. He's proposing that Saturn's moon Iapetus is a constructed spheroid composed of tetrahedral elements or some such. 
 
 
 
To: KevinDavis
    In Carl Sagan's book "Contact", the Earth was discovered by an alien civilization (maybe!) through "leaking" TV signals. Is there any plan to do SETI work at those frequencies? I suppose we would have to have an antenna in space in order to screen out terrestrial interference, but it seems that we would have a better chance of catching that kind of signal.
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posted on 
04/15/2005 5:54:08 AM PDT
by 
beef
(Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
 
To: KevinDavis
    This whole search for ETs is based on a huge, unfounded assumption. And now we want to increase expenditures?
 
To: aMorePerfectUnion; All
    It is not costing you a dime.. So what is your beef?
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 5:59:52 AM PDT
by 
KevinDavis
(Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
 
To: KevinDavis
    James Carville is all the proof I need.
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:01:00 AM PDT
by 
massgopguy
(massgopguy)
 
To: KevinDavis
    Maybe we should pay more attention to the fact that if there are technologically advanced civilizations out there, they are not broadcasting their presence.. 
 Maybe there's a reason they don't want to be heard throughout the galaxy.. 
 Maybe we should be more reticent about advertising our presence.. 
 There may be something (or someone) out there we don't want to know about us.. 
 ( Just a paranoid thought.. )
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:01:14 AM PDT
by 
Drammach
(Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
 
To: Drammach
    "There may be something (or someone) out there we don't want to know about us.." I pretty much agree. There's no reason, IMO, to assume that an alien intelligence will necessarily even be understandable to us, much less that it would be so similar as to care about us.
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:04:53 AM PDT
by 
Sam Cree
(Democrats are herd animals)
 
To: KevinDavis
    Check his/her posting history and it will become obvious.
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:06:44 AM PDT
by 
ASA Vet
(The speed of time is one second per second.)
 
To: KevinDavis
    Maybe we could fly Hillary across the sun in her pants suit. Her thick ankles could cast quite a shadow.
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:07:28 AM PDT
by 
garyhope
 
To: Jack of all Trades
     
   
 Iapetus = "Death Star" or galactic trash?
 
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:08:00 AM PDT
by 
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
 
To: Drammach
    I sometimes feel that I'm being followed by an enormous hedgehog named Spiny Norman.
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:08:35 AM PDT
by 
ClearCase_guy
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
 
To: Drammach
    Read "Revelation Space" by Alistair Crowely. Very interesting reason why there are no advanced civillizations in the galaxy. The ancient "inhibitors" take care of them when their presence becomes known.
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:08:56 AM PDT
by 
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
 
To: KevinDavis
    It sure has been a slow year at space.com ..... (yawn)
 
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:09:52 AM PDT
by 
add925
(The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
 
To: silverleaf
    Death Stars all around us. This one is Mimas.

 We're doomed.
To: doc30
    I believe the author of "Revelation Space" is Alastair Reynolds.
 Crowley wrote books of a different sort.
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posted on 
04/15/2005 6:33:01 AM PDT
by 
ClearCase_guy
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
 
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