Posted on 04/07/2005 6:54:37 AM PDT by Ebenezer
SSPX PRESS COMMUNIQUÉ
On the death of Pope John Paul II
Menzingen[, Switzerland] Easter Saturday 2 April, 2005
The Superior General of the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X and his two assistants, together with all its members: bishops, priests, brothers, sisters as well as the faithful, join in the prayer of the Universal Church at the announcement of the passing of the Holy Father, Pope John Paul II. We commend his soul to the mercy of God the Father and the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
There will be a Requiem Mass said in each house of the Society for the repose of the soul of the Holy Father.
The Society of Saint Pius X, founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, applauds the fight undertaken by Karol Wojtyla for the protection of life and his efforts in the moral sphere. Nonetheless, it feels it a duty to repeat that it has always disapproved of the indefatigable efforts of Pope John Paul II towards ecumenism, efforts which have led to a weakening of the Faith and of the defence of Truth.
The Society is aware of the superhuman task awaiting the future Supreme Pontiff and prays the Holy Ghost to enlighten the Cardinal Electors. It hopes the new Vicar of Christ will be able to take up the helm of the Church with a steady hand and make good the damage caused in the wake of the Second Vatican Council: liturgical unity and the unity of Faith have been dissolved and doctrinal errors have spread amongst all the clergy.
While we wait and hope for this, it is now time to pray for him who has just entered eternity.
Bishop Bernard Fellay Superior General of the SSPX
Upon leaving the Church is that when you started your alcohol and tobacco habits? Or was your thinking clouded beforehand?
As a detached observer, even you must admit that some (though not all Catholics) tend to emphasize Mary as a co-redeemer on equal level with Jesus.
Sometimes that happens when someone says something like,
hey ignorant - I only asked a question...
To try and answer the question about praying to the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God. Besides devotion to God himself, Catholics have a special affection to Mary and her Immaculate Heart. Because she was brought into the world without original sin, and she bore God's son Jesus, she is without equal among other humans. She holds such a special place as the Mother of God, and she is in the absolutely best position to intercede for us by way of prayer and devotion. That is why praying the Rosary is so important for the repose of souls including Pope John Paul II and, of course, to pray for our own salvation.
I did not. Somebody else did!
"The 'Catholic Church' has circled the wagons and obfuscated/hidden as in a camouflage mural the pure message of 'The Lord Jesus' amidst a very large heap of ritual,doctrines of men, exorbitant symbolism from spurious pagan influences."
Your statement is a very generalized attack that I think demonstrates an inconsistent understanding of comprehensive or catholic eschatology and scatters a common set of unfounded accusations. There is meaning in ritual and symbols. All doctrines have basis in natural law and dogmas in sacred Truth.
You see, the Good News is in the written word and the ritual and the dogma. Just as the Roman soldiers used a temporal crown of thorns to mock the eternal nature of His Kingship, so to do those who ignore His instituted sacraments mock Him by their haughty temporal boundaries that exclude His traditions.
Uh, this question has been thoroughly debated here. Do a search.
I have no idea what you are talking about, I have not bashed anyone, you must have directed this post to me in error. Have a nice day.
"Now you ask me to believe "
Hey, at least the guy seems to be listening. Cut him some slack, eh?
"lack of faith"
Faith is a supernatural gift. Have you tried praying for faith?
"As a detached observer, even you must admit that some (though not all Catholics) tend to emphasize Mary as a co-redeemer on equal level with Jesus."
Sure, some people get it wrong, but I don't think there are many who do that.
It does seem that way.
Well your argument comes down to semantics then. The fact is SSPX Masses do not fufill Catholics' Sunday obligations.
Well, the fact is, the Vatican says they do. Your personal and irrelevant opinion is that they don't. When you start up a church, I'll ask you what's valid in your little corner of the world. Until then, I'll have to take their word for it.
Pal,
You are one seriously lost soul. Whatever serpent has twisted around your brain and perverted your mind into thinking you actually know anything about Catholicism is obviously squeezing all the oxygen out.
You are spouting the same boring pathetic venom that the hypnotized always spew. The hypocrisy is utterly amazing. How you parrot other men's arguements.
Here's some advice: Learn something about the Catholic Church outside of your dark Master's Grimoire and come back when you can deal with something real instead of pathetically shadow boxing your own cult's myths.
The chip I have on my shoulder is you pretending to engage in a discussion when all you really want to do is spout your false ideas about what Catholics do and believe, and then listen to yourself knock down the straw men you have created.
then I submit that,...
I submit that when you pretend to know what Catholics believe and what Catholics do, you show how ignorant you are. When you refuse to take correction, to find out what they actually do believe and practice you show that your motives are, well, less than pure.
Truth is what is true in the heart,
Do you write for Hallmark? You've got a big seller with that one.
You are not interested in winning a poor lost soul over to the Catholic Church on this thread?
If I thought that there was an ounce of sincerity in any of your questions, and that they were not just a way for you to spread your complete and utterly false understanding of the Church and its beliefs and practices perhaps, but the few exchanges we've had I think this verse reflects my most appropriate course of action:
"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you; going forth from thence, shake off the dust from your feet for a testimony to them."
Mark 6.11
ROTFLOL! I just saw your tagline. = D
I don't honestly know. Perhaps they are not sedevacantists. I was right next to one of their churches in Ridgefield, CT, for a number of years, but I confess I haven't followed them much in recent years.
"I only asked a question" - MrK
Not true - you stated you had a "real problem"
Do you deny that?
"I only asked a question" - MrK
Not true - you stated you had a "real issue"
Do you deny that?
(corrected)
OMG~! NO~!~! you discovered me!! I also made a STATEMENT when I asked a question.. I guess I am found out now...
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