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Pope John Paul II Has Gone to His Heavenly Home with God 2:37 pm EST
BBC News Online World Edition ^ | April 1, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476

Edited on 04/02/2005 7:53:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

April 2, 2005 7:25 a.m. PST Update

From Rome CBS Radio News: (rough transcription of update)

The Vatican has been transparent in allowing news media access to information about Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul II is responsible for the change in how the Vatican views the media.

At this time, Pope John Paul II's condition is unchanged.

His heart and kidneys are failing. The Vatican said that this does not suggest that he is suffering.

He has a compromised state of consciousness, yet he is not in a comatose state.

He drifts in and out of consciousness. One Vatican source said that it appeared that the Pope is resting with his eyes shut.

Pope John Paul II has responded by opening his eyes when spoken to. He has also tried to speak in the past few hours.

An Aide assisted Pope John Paul II in writing a message to his beloved staff gathered in the Papal apartment. The Pope asked them not to be sad for him.

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Special report live from CBS News at the Vatican April 2, 2005


(This is a rough transcript of the CBS news conference with the Italian translator and Vatican representative)

Substantially and varied (blood values?) very serious very grave

We hope to serve ... earlier initial state of consciousness AT 7:30 a.m. we celebrated of Mass with the Pope he is breathing, labored or slightly...

Pope had in mind young people...

This is difficult ...

Pope seemed to refer to young people when he repeatedly seemed to say "I've been looking for you and now you've come to me... "

We've been able to reconstruct what he said, this is what he said.

We have this update now for you until this evening...

I cannot confirm the particular rumors ... (inaudible)

Probably around 5:30 or 6:00 p.m. we will have another update for you...

He is not in a coma.

When we speak to him he opens his eyes.

He seems to be receptive.

We are not talking about coma here.

Question from media: Who is always present with the Pope?

Answer: Monsignor (inaudible) the other Secretary to the Holy Father the three Nuns of the Holy Father, his personal physician.

Thank you very much and we will see you later.

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'Serious' Pope has heart failure

Pope John Paul II has suffered a cardiac arrest and is in a grave condition, the Vatican has announced.

The urgent communique came hours after the Pope's health worsened with a high fever caused by an infection.

"Following a urinary tract infection, septic shock and a cardiocirculatory collapse occurred," Vatican spokesman Navarro-Valls said in his statement.

The Pope was also given the last rites - the Catholic sacrament for the sick and dying, the spokesman said.

But he said the pontiff remained "conscious, lucid and tranquil".

The emergency department chief at Rome's Gemelli hospital said on Thursday the Pope would not be taken to hospital for the time being.

Some observers said this suggested it meant he was too weak to be moved at all.

Sombre mood

Small groups of faithful gathered at St Peter's Square in Rome to pray for the Pope's speedy recovery.

However, the mood in the Vatican is sombre, the BBC's David Willey in Rome reports.

Prelates are openly expressing pessimism about the possibility of the Pope ever resuming the guidance of his one billion-strong church, our correspondent says.

The pontiff is being fed through a nasal tube to aid his recovery from throat surgery last month.

The Pope had appeared briefly at the window of his Vatican apartment on Easter Sunday to bless the faithful, but was not able to speak.

It was the first time during his 26-year pontificate that the Pope delegated the main Easter ceremonies to his cardinals.

'Lost weight'

On Thursday afternoon, the Pope's temperature soared to 40 degrees C (104F), Italian media reported.

He developed breathing troubles and has difficulty in swallowing as a result of the progress of Parkinson's Disease, an incurable condition from which he has been suffering for nearly a decade.

Since his throat surgery, he has lost about 19 kg (42 lb), Father Hejmo said, which leaves him more vulnerable to infections.

The Pope's private doctor Renato Buzzetti is in charge of his medical treatment in his private apartment at the Vatican.

So far this year the Pope has had two spells in hospital where he received treatment for breathing problems and underwent an operation on his throat.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: johnpaul; johnpaulii; jp2; pope; rc; romancatholic; theholysee; vatican
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To: PhiKapMom

Judy or Shep? hmmmm.....

Judy wins. I don't believe I'm typing this....


661 posted on 04/01/2005 12:45:33 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: bd476

Thank you for the update, bd476

Sad news :0(

Sending Prayers


662 posted on 04/01/2005 12:46:35 PM PST by Mo1
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To: ruoflaw

I recall at least one - the tradition is bittersweet and beautiful.


663 posted on 04/01/2005 12:46:41 PM PST by bd476
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To: Kate of Spice Island

*She had a son thatr was due*...


664 posted on 04/01/2005 12:46:54 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: ruoflaw


You're right.


665 posted on 04/01/2005 12:47:44 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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I was just watching a bit of the Los Angeles special mass ongoing. Pity that Cardinal Mahoney does not enjoy the same sort of good will. I'm not Catholic, so maybe his flock adores him. But the rest of us aren't impressed. That cathedral where he's conducting mass is referred to as the "Taj Mahoney."

I like that CNN has Rome's local time showing at all times. It's really handy.


666 posted on 04/01/2005 12:47:55 PM PST by lainie
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To: onyx
"JPII's life is definitely one to celebrate, but the selfishness in me, just dreads to see him go. "

Agree - right there with you.

667 posted on 04/01/2005 12:48:39 PM PST by bd476
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To: lainie

In my Hymnal, Hymn 666 is:

Out of the deep I call
to thee, O Lord, to thee.
before thy throne of grace I fall;
be merciful to me.

Out of the deep I cry,
the woeful deep of sin,
of evil done in days gone by,
of evil now within;

Out of the deep of fear
and dread of coming shame;
all night till morning watch is near
I plead the precious Name.

Lord, there is mercy now,
as ever was, with thee.
before thy throne of grace I bow;
be merciful to me.

Words: Henry Williams Baker, 1868
Music: St. Bride


668 posted on 04/01/2005 12:51:33 PM PST by johnb838 (Blessed Are The Dead, Who Die In The Lord, For They Rest From Their Labors.)
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To: onyx

Oh, I was just agreeing with how you feel.


669 posted on 04/01/2005 12:51:36 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: Mo1

It is a sad day. Keeping busy has helped a little.


670 posted on 04/01/2005 12:52:04 PM PST by bd476
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To: lainie

Congrats on getting post 666!


671 posted on 04/01/2005 12:52:15 PM PST by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: lainie

>> Cardinal Mahoney<<

The idea that Mahoney's flock adores him is PR only. The conservatives aren't happy with him at all.


672 posted on 04/01/2005 12:53:47 PM PST by netmilsmom (Ask and ye shall receive.)
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To: cibco; lainie

Lainie is a good person and has no worries there.


673 posted on 04/01/2005 12:54:15 PM PST by bd476
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To: Jrabbit

LOL!!! I know the feeling -- I never thought I would see the day that I picked Judy Woodruff over Fox but today is that day. Like you, I cannot believe I typed that.


674 posted on 04/01/2005 12:54:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: ruoflaw

I know.
I was trying to convey "you're right, I know my thoughts are shared."


675 posted on 04/01/2005 12:55:28 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: ruoflaw

I have trashed CNN so much but their coverage won the day for me with all their great guests they have had on and how thoughtful they have been all day. I am amazed.


676 posted on 04/01/2005 12:56:45 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: bd476

Please don't miss the beautiful pics, Maggie is posting over here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375516/posts?page=338#338

Scroll up, scroll down, scroll back, lol... they're plentiful.


677 posted on 04/01/2005 12:58:38 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: onyx

I looked back and I thought...boy, why didn't I just say "me too" This Pope has accomplished so much and he has had such dignity and grace.


678 posted on 04/01/2005 12:58:50 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: PhiKapMom

Yikes! We were praising Jessie Jackson this week and now we are happy with CNN. Very strange indeed!


679 posted on 04/01/2005 12:59:41 PM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: PhiKapMom

I am glad you said something because I could not stand Fox one more minute today!


680 posted on 04/01/2005 1:00:10 PM PST by ruoflaw
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