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Pope John Paul II Has Gone to His Heavenly Home with God 2:37 pm EST
BBC News Online World Edition ^ | April 1, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476

Edited on 04/02/2005 7:53:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

April 2, 2005 7:25 a.m. PST Update

From Rome CBS Radio News: (rough transcription of update)

The Vatican has been transparent in allowing news media access to information about Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul II is responsible for the change in how the Vatican views the media.

At this time, Pope John Paul II's condition is unchanged.

His heart and kidneys are failing. The Vatican said that this does not suggest that he is suffering.

He has a compromised state of consciousness, yet he is not in a comatose state.

He drifts in and out of consciousness. One Vatican source said that it appeared that the Pope is resting with his eyes shut.

Pope John Paul II has responded by opening his eyes when spoken to. He has also tried to speak in the past few hours.

An Aide assisted Pope John Paul II in writing a message to his beloved staff gathered in the Papal apartment. The Pope asked them not to be sad for him.

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Special report live from CBS News at the Vatican April 2, 2005


(This is a rough transcript of the CBS news conference with the Italian translator and Vatican representative)

Substantially and varied (blood values?) very serious very grave

We hope to serve ... earlier initial state of consciousness AT 7:30 a.m. we celebrated of Mass with the Pope he is breathing, labored or slightly...

Pope had in mind young people...

This is difficult ...

Pope seemed to refer to young people when he repeatedly seemed to say "I've been looking for you and now you've come to me... "

We've been able to reconstruct what he said, this is what he said.

We have this update now for you until this evening...

I cannot confirm the particular rumors ... (inaudible)

Probably around 5:30 or 6:00 p.m. we will have another update for you...

He is not in a coma.

When we speak to him he opens his eyes.

He seems to be receptive.

We are not talking about coma here.

Question from media: Who is always present with the Pope?

Answer: Monsignor (inaudible) the other Secretary to the Holy Father the three Nuns of the Holy Father, his personal physician.

Thank you very much and we will see you later.

________________________

'Serious' Pope has heart failure

Pope John Paul II has suffered a cardiac arrest and is in a grave condition, the Vatican has announced.

The urgent communique came hours after the Pope's health worsened with a high fever caused by an infection.

"Following a urinary tract infection, septic shock and a cardiocirculatory collapse occurred," Vatican spokesman Navarro-Valls said in his statement.

The Pope was also given the last rites - the Catholic sacrament for the sick and dying, the spokesman said.

But he said the pontiff remained "conscious, lucid and tranquil".

The emergency department chief at Rome's Gemelli hospital said on Thursday the Pope would not be taken to hospital for the time being.

Some observers said this suggested it meant he was too weak to be moved at all.

Sombre mood

Small groups of faithful gathered at St Peter's Square in Rome to pray for the Pope's speedy recovery.

However, the mood in the Vatican is sombre, the BBC's David Willey in Rome reports.

Prelates are openly expressing pessimism about the possibility of the Pope ever resuming the guidance of his one billion-strong church, our correspondent says.

The pontiff is being fed through a nasal tube to aid his recovery from throat surgery last month.

The Pope had appeared briefly at the window of his Vatican apartment on Easter Sunday to bless the faithful, but was not able to speak.

It was the first time during his 26-year pontificate that the Pope delegated the main Easter ceremonies to his cardinals.

'Lost weight'

On Thursday afternoon, the Pope's temperature soared to 40 degrees C (104F), Italian media reported.

He developed breathing troubles and has difficulty in swallowing as a result of the progress of Parkinson's Disease, an incurable condition from which he has been suffering for nearly a decade.

Since his throat surgery, he has lost about 19 kg (42 lb), Father Hejmo said, which leaves him more vulnerable to infections.

The Pope's private doctor Renato Buzzetti is in charge of his medical treatment in his private apartment at the Vatican.

So far this year the Pope has had two spells in hospital where he received treatment for breathing problems and underwent an operation on his throat.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: johnpaul; johnpaulii; jp2; pope; rc; romancatholic; theholysee; vatican
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To: lainie

This is exactly what is happening. I am amazed at the people being interviewed including this Rabbi. I am getting nothing done today except watching TV and have learned so much.


621 posted on 04/01/2005 12:14:45 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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Worshippers pray at the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris Friday, April 1, 2005, for ailing Pope John Paul II. The 81-year-old pontiff was clinging to life in deteriorating condition Friday as crowds gathered to pray for the Pontiff. (AP Photo / Jacques Brinon)

622 posted on 04/01/2005 12:15:31 PM PST by bd476
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To: djf

CNN reported that shortly after I turned on the TV this morning and their medical expert has been giving details of what this all means as the day as has progressed. Their medical expert has explained everything in terms a layman can understand.


623 posted on 04/01/2005 12:16:40 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: TomGuy

That would be very painful. I hope that they are still treating him with antibiotics, if only in hope.


624 posted on 04/01/2005 12:17:20 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

I remember well watching the for the color of the smoke when the last two Popes were chosen


625 posted on 04/01/2005 12:17:20 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: areafiftyone
TY,

Life has been chaotic and I had just lost a younger borther less than three weeks earlier. I was also recovering from a recent hysterectomy, so it went right by me.

Kate

626 posted on 04/01/2005 12:18:40 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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Two girls protect a candle flame as faithful gather for prayers in St. Peter's square at the Vatican, Friday, April 1, 2005. Pope John Paul II was clinging to life in deteriorating condition, with his breath shallow and his kidneys not functioning properly after suffering heart trouble, the Vatican said Friday. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

627 posted on 04/01/2005 12:19:22 PM PST by bd476
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To: AmericanInTokyo
That picture, in a nutshell, is how he'll want to be remembered.

-Eric

628 posted on 04/01/2005 12:20:38 PM PST by E Rocc (All Hail The Holy PSP)
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To: lainie
According to what I've read, the newly elected pope gets to choose the name by which he will be called. I wonder if using his Christian name is an option?

I don't see why not. The first several popes after Peter seem to have used their given names--Linus and Cletus and Clement and so on. The first pope I am aware of who adopted a new name for his papacy was John II in 533:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08421b.htm

629 posted on 04/01/2005 12:20:57 PM PST by Bohemund
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To: bd476

The Vatican is reporting that there is no hope for the Pope.


630 posted on 04/01/2005 12:22:07 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: Kate of Spice Island

I am sooo sorry to hear of your loss. I lost a sister on Easter Sunday, my mother on Christmas and a younger brother on my birthday. Easter week is pretty down for me and the events this week make it even harder.


631 posted on 04/01/2005 12:22:17 PM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: netmilsmom

St. Patrick's in NYC is beautiful and there is no room for dancing!


632 posted on 04/01/2005 12:22:39 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: netmilsmom

very cool!


633 posted on 04/01/2005 12:25:37 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: Kate of Spice Island

latin spoken with an italian accent i guess. doesn't sound like the latin i hear at our church ; )


634 posted on 04/01/2005 12:26:12 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: bd476


I'm watching EWTN for accurate news.


635 posted on 04/01/2005 12:26:25 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: areafiftyone

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.


636 posted on 04/01/2005 12:27:26 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: onyx

Well, they said he was dead earlier this afternoon


637 posted on 04/01/2005 12:28:27 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

There is a parallel. The Pope prayed for Terri's life. It ended. She was catholic. The world prayed for her to live. She didn't. They are praying for the Pope in the thros of death. She was murdered, He had every help on earth to live. She had nothing. God knows.Will we ever wake up? No, its too late.


638 posted on 04/01/2005 12:28:30 PM PST by Old anti feminist
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To: BurbankKarl
If you can find why they pick names......let me know.

Probably because the Lord changed Simon's name to Peter.

639 posted on 04/01/2005 12:29:02 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ruoflaw
I remember well watching the for the color of the smoke when the last two Popes were chosen

I remember vaguely sitting in a Catholic school when they announced something...Since it was back-to-back John Pauls, I can't remember if it was the death of Pope Paul VI or John Paul I or the new Pope (either JP I or II) or any combination of the above.

640 posted on 04/01/2005 12:29:29 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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