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Pope John Paul II Has Gone to His Heavenly Home with God 2:37 pm EST
BBC News Online World Edition ^ | April 1, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476

Edited on 04/02/2005 7:53:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

April 2, 2005 7:25 a.m. PST Update

From Rome CBS Radio News: (rough transcription of update)

The Vatican has been transparent in allowing news media access to information about Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul II is responsible for the change in how the Vatican views the media.

At this time, Pope John Paul II's condition is unchanged.

His heart and kidneys are failing. The Vatican said that this does not suggest that he is suffering.

He has a compromised state of consciousness, yet he is not in a comatose state.

He drifts in and out of consciousness. One Vatican source said that it appeared that the Pope is resting with his eyes shut.

Pope John Paul II has responded by opening his eyes when spoken to. He has also tried to speak in the past few hours.

An Aide assisted Pope John Paul II in writing a message to his beloved staff gathered in the Papal apartment. The Pope asked them not to be sad for him.

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Special report live from CBS News at the Vatican April 2, 2005


(This is a rough transcript of the CBS news conference with the Italian translator and Vatican representative)

Substantially and varied (blood values?) very serious very grave

We hope to serve ... earlier initial state of consciousness AT 7:30 a.m. we celebrated of Mass with the Pope he is breathing, labored or slightly...

Pope had in mind young people...

This is difficult ...

Pope seemed to refer to young people when he repeatedly seemed to say "I've been looking for you and now you've come to me... "

We've been able to reconstruct what he said, this is what he said.

We have this update now for you until this evening...

I cannot confirm the particular rumors ... (inaudible)

Probably around 5:30 or 6:00 p.m. we will have another update for you...

He is not in a coma.

When we speak to him he opens his eyes.

He seems to be receptive.

We are not talking about coma here.

Question from media: Who is always present with the Pope?

Answer: Monsignor (inaudible) the other Secretary to the Holy Father the three Nuns of the Holy Father, his personal physician.

Thank you very much and we will see you later.

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'Serious' Pope has heart failure

Pope John Paul II has suffered a cardiac arrest and is in a grave condition, the Vatican has announced.

The urgent communique came hours after the Pope's health worsened with a high fever caused by an infection.

"Following a urinary tract infection, septic shock and a cardiocirculatory collapse occurred," Vatican spokesman Navarro-Valls said in his statement.

The Pope was also given the last rites - the Catholic sacrament for the sick and dying, the spokesman said.

But he said the pontiff remained "conscious, lucid and tranquil".

The emergency department chief at Rome's Gemelli hospital said on Thursday the Pope would not be taken to hospital for the time being.

Some observers said this suggested it meant he was too weak to be moved at all.

Sombre mood

Small groups of faithful gathered at St Peter's Square in Rome to pray for the Pope's speedy recovery.

However, the mood in the Vatican is sombre, the BBC's David Willey in Rome reports.

Prelates are openly expressing pessimism about the possibility of the Pope ever resuming the guidance of his one billion-strong church, our correspondent says.

The pontiff is being fed through a nasal tube to aid his recovery from throat surgery last month.

The Pope had appeared briefly at the window of his Vatican apartment on Easter Sunday to bless the faithful, but was not able to speak.

It was the first time during his 26-year pontificate that the Pope delegated the main Easter ceremonies to his cardinals.

'Lost weight'

On Thursday afternoon, the Pope's temperature soared to 40 degrees C (104F), Italian media reported.

He developed breathing troubles and has difficulty in swallowing as a result of the progress of Parkinson's Disease, an incurable condition from which he has been suffering for nearly a decade.

Since his throat surgery, he has lost about 19 kg (42 lb), Father Hejmo said, which leaves him more vulnerable to infections.

The Pope's private doctor Renato Buzzetti is in charge of his medical treatment in his private apartment at the Vatican.

So far this year the Pope has had two spells in hospital where he received treatment for breathing problems and underwent an operation on his throat.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: johnpaul; johnpaulii; jp2; pope; rc; romancatholic; theholysee; vatican
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1 posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476
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To: Salvation; MeekOneGOP; trussell

Ping.


2 posted on 03/31/2005 9:55:58 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

The BBC has got the champagne on ice, and glass in hand....


3 posted on 03/31/2005 9:58:24 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (a PROUD member of the "Blame the MSM first" crowd!!!!!)
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To: bd476; Sidebar Moderator

Bump for Breaking News


4 posted on 03/31/2005 9:59:09 PM PST by kingu (What is union scale wage for staging a protest anyway?)
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Pope Close to Death, Receives Communion -Vatican

13 minutes ago Top Stories - Reuters

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul was in a "very grave" condition on Friday and appeared close to death after suffering cardio-circulatory collapse and shock, the Vatican said in a statement.

Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said the 84-year-old Pope had been given the "Holy Viaticum" -- communion reserved for those close to death -- and had decided himself not to go to hospital for treatment.



The Vatican statement said the Pope had received cardio-respiratory assistance on Thursday and on Friday morning was still "conscious, lucid and tranquil."

It said the Pope celebrated Mass with his close aides at 6.00 a.m. (11 p.m. EST) on Friday.



Pope John Paul's fragile health took a sharp turn for the worse on Thursday evening as he developed a very high fever caused by a urinary infection.
5 posted on 03/31/2005 10:00:05 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476
I sure hate to hear this.

Prayers for the Pope.

:(

6 posted on 03/31/2005 10:00:32 PM PST by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon)
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To: bd476


Very sad.


7 posted on 03/31/2005 10:01:39 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: onyx

Prayers for Pope John Paul II. Yes, it is very sad, Onyx.


8 posted on 03/31/2005 10:03:28 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

The article says the Pope lost 42 lbs (!) since his throat surgery, which I hadn't heard reported before. No wonder they had him on a nasogastric feeding tube.


9 posted on 03/31/2005 10:03:47 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: bd476

Jesus said,

"Come to Me all you who are

weary and burdened, and

I will give you rest."

Matthew 11:28

10 posted on 03/31/2005 10:06:40 PM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Today they announced his high fever from a bladder infection. Bladder infections and other infections are not uncommon when older patients are hospitalized frequently as the Pope has been.


11 posted on 03/31/2005 10:08:18 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

Can't be too sad about a long life, well lived, making great contributions to humanity.


12 posted on 03/31/2005 10:09:10 PM PST by spinestein
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To: spinestein

Indeed - his is a life to rejoice. It sounds like he will soon receive his well-deserved reward. Even as a non-Catholic, I not only prayer for him, but I also pray that his successor is up to the task of filling some very large shoes.


13 posted on 03/31/2005 10:11:34 PM PST by The Noodle
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To: bd476

The doctor on MSNBC said the Pope may have had a catheter--that's why my very ill brother-in-law spent a week in the ICU. He has a catheter and got a bladder infection on top of pneumonia. He survived, but he may be stronger than the Pope, but only marginally.


14 posted on 03/31/2005 10:15:13 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: spinestein
Spinestein wrote: "Can't be too sad about a long life, well lived, making great contributions to humanity."

While it is true that Pope John Paul II has given much to humanity, and has lived an exemplary, self sacrificing life, it is in anticipation over his eventual passing that finds people sad. People will be in grief and mourning. It is sad to lose a great man.

16 posted on 03/31/2005 10:16:46 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

Another Freeper pointed it out to me that it is ironic how parallel his condition has been running to Terri Schiavo. This really clinches it. I don't think that he will make it through the night.


17 posted on 03/31/2005 10:20:16 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked
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To: LibFreeOrDie
It also might have been very difficult for the Pontiff to swallow after his throat surgery.

God Bless him in his valiant effort to continue in his earthly duties and responsibilities while weak, in pain and suffering.

18 posted on 03/31/2005 10:20:17 PM PST by bd476
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To: spinestein

I believe this pope is a great man and a man who, to a great extent, helped Ronald Reagan shape the fall of communisms in the east block coutries. I understand he has stood firm against New Age devotees in the Vatican and have read speculation that at his passing a new pope with leaning toward the New Age Movement will be selected. I do not keep up with Vatican politics. Can someone with knowlege give me information along this line?


19 posted on 03/31/2005 10:25:01 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: spinestein

I believe this pope is a great man and a man who, to a great extent, helped Ronald Reagan shape the fall of communisms in the east block coutries. I understand he has stood firm against New Age devotees in the Vatican and have read speculation that at his passing a new pope with leaning toward the New Age Movement will be selected. I do not keep up with Vatican politics. Can someone with knowlege give me information along this line?


20 posted on 03/31/2005 10:25:59 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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