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Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']
Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.

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To: NorCalRepub
"those were illegal orders, and to my knowledge, these orders and difficult as you find them are not......"

You have got to be kidding! how can any orders to starve an innocent woman to death be legal or moral? Please do tell. Please tell me what you would say to to defend such orders?

601 posted on 03/25/2005 9:58:52 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Darkwolf377

haha.....I don't know about that...public opinion right now as I have seen it does not want the govt intruding into this matter and Bush's job approval rating has dropped 7 points as of today......maybe it is the focus on the economy or other dark and nefarious reasons...but unlike FR, there are many Repubs and conservatives (who don't want to be known ) took great offense to Congress meddling in the state's affairs.......don't ya think?????


602 posted on 03/25/2005 9:58:58 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: TheCrusader
"Maybe that's the whole problem here, the other side won't back down, but the conservative side will."

That's the whole problem with our political climate. If conservatives had half as much spine as the liberals have arrogance, we might have a chance. As it is, we have "conservatives" without the courage of their convictions, and liberals who are pathetically lacking in convictions, but, by golly, they can sure bully us around by taking ours and beating us with them. Just once, I'd like to see our side take the risk and smack down the bullies, instead of running for cover to lick their wounds.

603 posted on 03/25/2005 9:59:07 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: MTOrlando

Well, then the family's lawyers are incompetent.


604 posted on 03/25/2005 9:59:12 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: KDD
"He has used a personal family tragedy to further some political agenda that has nothing to do with this case no matter how he tries to twist it to fit."


Totally agree with you about Randall, however, what this judge did is wrong. This judge usurped authority not given him by the Constitution and Randall is seeking to usurp authority not given him. Both are loosers IMO.
605 posted on 03/25/2005 9:59:19 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: KDD

Michael, is that you? Greer?

I will accept your invitation not to visit. If Pinellas Park sees nothing wrong with starving to death an innocent, disabled woman, then it's definitely not a place I want to be. Enjoy.

Terri will be dead soon.....will there be a victory parade for Michael, Greer and Felos down mainstreet?


606 posted on 03/25/2005 9:59:40 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Chad Fairbanks

People are starting to scare me.


607 posted on 03/25/2005 10:00:05 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: Peach

Is this the same Wolfson that I read about on another thread with all the connections to the hospice Terri is in?


608 posted on 03/25/2005 10:00:31 PM PST by Hattie
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To: NorCalRepub

"you are not getting it.......the cops are not working on orders to follow their personal beliefs....."

In this situation they should have stood aside and follow the will of the people. They didn't. They don't belong in there and should resign. They're cowards and traitors.


609 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:01 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: tomkat

Oh come on. Do you honestly believe Jeb Bush is not worried about doing what is right in this case?

He even did what so many wanted, obey the court and send in state police.

But, that wasn't good enough....they would have had to fought the local cops to the death for you to be happy.


610 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:04 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: NorCalRepub
well, just have at it???......now that also in your words does not sound "lawful or legitimate"......

So what is your solution?
611 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:06 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: NorCalRepub
I would presume my first right was to life and liberty, but unfortunatley, there are exceptions, right to die cases everyday....you can point a finger at me, but it will not change the aspects of this case.......yes, Terri is being allowed to die.....some say murdered......my position would be that her hubby should have relinquished quardianship a long time ago......but absent that.......I think I would follow the law.....no matter how disgusting it is...

It's your government, not theirs. In the US the citizens are ultimately responsible for what their government does.

612 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:07 PM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: politicket
GOD didn't place either man in his position. If you believe that, then you believe that GOD not only put Clinton in the Oval Office,but kept him from being kicked out of office after having been impeached.

Read the Constitution. Nowhere in it does it give a president to ride in,on a white horse, and interfere physically with what's happening to Terri. As a matter of fact,President Bush has gone beyond the call of duty to help. It hasn't worked and that is NOT his fault!

613 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: billbears
" I would have pictured what Ronald Reagan would have done. He would have sent in Federal Marshals, taken custody of Terri, arrested the probate Swamp judge & ordered the Justice department to start an investigation of all the Nazis involved."

Ronald Reagan? The Beirut Bugout Boy?

614 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:11 PM PST by cookcounty (Just wondering: How much weight will the great International Justice Kennedy give the Vatican?)
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To: kralcmot; All

I'm outraged. I'm outraged at everyone involved in this case...except for Terri.

But you're right. Terri will likely die soon and at this point, I'm not convinced we can do much else.

What we need to do is double or triple our efforts at getting a truly rational and independent-minded judiciary elected and/or appointed.

All of our anger, outrage, etc. needs to be re-directed to reforming our judiciary. We will win some and we will lose some but from here on, this is what we need to do.

Let's honor Terri in this way by doing what we can to ensure something like this never happens again.


615 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:18 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: longtermmemmory

I can easily imagine Reagan seizing the moment with a national address. If W tried this, would the networks would cut away from basketball? Guess we'll never know. Advice to the Bushes: Don't bother with condolences after Terri has passed.


616 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:36 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: NorCalRepub

Here, DCFS is not under the jurisdiction of the same court as civil matters.


617 posted on 03/25/2005 10:01:47 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Well, then the family's lawyers are incompetent.

Maybe, but intervening in the commission of a crime is a totally adequate and lawful pretext for the governor to send in the troops. Further, intervening during the commission of a crime is the job of the executive, not the judiciary, and not a civil suit.
618 posted on 03/25/2005 10:02:02 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: longtermmemmory

On the contrary more and more Police Agencies want their officers to have college degrees. Now you have police with degrees but not a lot of common sense or street smarts. All the chief's are hired by municipal governments that are all politically correct and afraid to take chances for fear of lawsuits. I saw this coming 20 years ago.


619 posted on 03/25/2005 10:02:03 PM PST by samantha (relax, and cheer up the adults are in charge)
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To: KDD
Are we all heathens?

Considering you're standing around while a disabled woman starves to death in your back yard, I'd have to say, "yeah, probably."
620 posted on 03/25/2005 10:02:54 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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