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Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']
Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.

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To: ModernDayCato

Jeb Bush does not have the legal, constitutional, or even moral authority to act in violation of court orders. He would receive little support for such action and he would not deserve support. Terri would be starved anyway. Governors do not have the capability of opposing legal decisions other than in court, especially when the legislature refused to support him. And yes we are all better off for it. Would you like a governor who used the state police to "rescue" death row imates because he decided it's the right thing to do?


461 posted on 03/25/2005 9:25:57 PM PST by Williams
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To: All
Another reason to do away with the executive and legislative branches of government. Move the functions to departments in the judiciary staffed by a pool of typists to transcribe the mullahs.. er I mean judges' orders.

Hey! conservatives can cut a lot of taxes given the savings -- and the left will be ecstatic too because they won!

462 posted on 03/25/2005 9:25:58 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: Antoninus

well my feeings about Terri starving to death have no bearing right now on those who want to chuck the law out the window.....they have lost every single appeal....the Bush brothers have done more than most........what exactly do you know or want to do that many in the "know" have not thought of or tried....


463 posted on 03/25/2005 9:26:09 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: MTOrlando

Well, he should just declare a state of mergency and activate the guard then.

Yeah, that's a good idea. Strip everyone of their rights, for the sake of one woman.

Can I have some of that crack you are smoking?


464 posted on 03/25/2005 9:26:12 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: sweetliberty

We may not respect 'em, but we sure do elect 'em.

Most humurous line I read all night. Thanks.


465 posted on 03/25/2005 9:26:21 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: Libertina
I posted this on another thread:

"Disbarment seems appropriate here. Disbar Judge Greer for not recusing himself from the case, and disbar Felos for having a conflict-of-interest."

link

466 posted on 03/25/2005 9:26:25 PM PST by Enterprise (President George W. Bush - the leading insurgent detergent.)
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To: MTOrlando
Like we've discussed before, I think you're oversimplifying this and not looking at it in a legal context. The law does allow for a legal guardian to end artificial life support, and in Florida, a feeding tube is classified as such support.

And by the way, I recently saw a post that stated Randall Terry's own lawyer corrected him (on Hannity today, if I'm not mistaken) and said that Jeb Bush had exhausted his legal options to intervene.

(Contrary to what all the non-lawyers on FR are claiming, I might add.)

467 posted on 03/25/2005 9:26:44 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: Gondring

With all due respect, her husband is the only person who 'supposedly' heard her say anthing of the kind your are taking as gospel. Why do you believe him over all her other family members, who say she would NEVER ask to be killed? I'm listening...

Please show us that verbage assuring people the right to death. I must have missed it. Was it God given? Funny, I don't remember reading any assurance from God that death should be preferable over life.


468 posted on 03/25/2005 9:26:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: ni4ni

Truthfully he has been working on this case since way before MSM started taking polls on the situation.
I doubt the Bush family relies on polls for guidance.


469 posted on 03/25/2005 9:26:48 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Jimbaugh
Anyone who knows any Cops knows that most of them don't do allot of thinking.

I know two cops very well: my sons. They both went to college, one served in the Army, and both know how to spell "a lot."

And they could likely handle situations that would cause you to piss in your pants.

470 posted on 03/25/2005 9:27:39 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: Darkwolf377
""They're not stormtroopers if they're being stormtroopers for OUR cause""

Perhaps the most levelheaded analysis thus far.
471 posted on 03/25/2005 9:27:43 PM PST by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: Williams
The Governor can just commute a death sentence, or grant a pardon. He doesn't need to send in any force. He just makes a phone call.
472 posted on 03/25/2005 9:27:45 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: longtermmemmory
I believe that opinion was written BEFORE the order from Greer.

Not to put too fine a point on it but this is gut-check time for the executive branch. We have all complained about runaway judiciary and the left have consistently guarded appointments.

Now comes a clear case that provides both federal and state jurisdiction and authority for the executive branch (Jeb) to put the judiciary in its place.

In that respect, Jeb has blinked.

473 posted on 03/25/2005 9:28:16 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Darkwolf377

*sigh*......of course you are right and I totally agree...as usual...(smile).....your Plasma TV is in the mail......LOL


474 posted on 03/25/2005 9:28:16 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Randall Terry is operating on pure emotion now.


475 posted on 03/25/2005 9:28:26 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
The solution is not to ruin Jeb Bush, but many are hell bent on doing just that.

We can't ruin him. He can only ruin himself by his inaction. The clock is still ticking, governor...
476 posted on 03/25/2005 9:28:49 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Fudd Fan

You have come to the right pace to be with those who believe as you do. I see you are new to FR, welcome FReeper friend.


477 posted on 03/25/2005 9:29:38 PM PST by Libertina (Hey temporary Governor Christine Gregoire - don't get too comfortable in that mansion!)
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To: Nik Naym
The Governor can just commute a death sentence, or grant a pardon. He doesn't need to send in any force. He just makes a phone call.

If the FLorida COnstitution is anything like the Federal one, it will read "... for crimes against the ste of Florida". Did Terri commit any crimes? No? Well, she can't be pardoned.

478 posted on 03/25/2005 9:29:45 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Williams
Your ignorance of Constitutional concepts and law are appalling. You are absolutely incorrect. And your analogy about death row is ludicrous.

Terri Schiavo has not committed any crime. She is a citizen of the US and of Florida, and has specific rights conferred to her by our Constitution.

The Judiciary has no more or less power over her than the Governor has, and the Judiciary cannot order Governor Bush to disobey the Constitution or the law of Florida.

And FYI, the Sheriff is also not obligated to stop him.

479 posted on 03/25/2005 9:30:08 PM PST by ModernDayCato (The Bush Brothers...standing for LIFE)
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To: Williams
"...you are all missing the reality that as civil war breaks out in Florida, Terri would not be saved for more than a day or two."

First I'm not buying that civil war will break out and second somebody misunderestimated just how "excited" the base would get on this.

Nuff said.

480 posted on 03/25/2005 9:30:11 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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