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1 posted on 03/25/2005 4:32:35 PM PST by Crackingham
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This is a 'common-sense' type law that's needed. Allowing teachers or at least some armed guards at schools.

Right now they're just a huge target. Huge.. I'm amazing more atrocities haven't happened.. yet.


2 posted on 03/25/2005 4:34:04 PM PST by G32
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Wanna bet the NEA doesn't agree?


3 posted on 03/25/2005 4:34:47 PM PST by Dog Gone
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I think the Red Lake killer wandered around the school for about 45 minutes before police arrived. On confronting him, he ducked into a classroom and killed himself.

In Pearl Mississippi, a teacher stopped a rampage short. Another rampage was stopped by armed students in NC.

4 posted on 03/25/2005 4:37:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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Ban SSRI's

B'shem Y'shua
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5 posted on 03/25/2005 4:37:56 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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It would certainly make the little darlins' think twice about misbehavin'.


6 posted on 03/25/2005 4:38:58 PM PST by ContraryMary
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With the potential for terror attacks (as well as nutcase kids with weapons) I would like to see every school, mall, church, or temple with a handful (volunteers) of weapons qualified personnel. The guns should be quickly obtainable and not well publicized. (The terrorists or students should not know who might have the training.) I believe this has been the practice in Israel and would be a good policy here as well. In this respect laws making schools "gun free zones" should not apply to these members of the staff who volunteer to take additional traning and show a willingness to take the necessary risk to protect themselves and others.


7 posted on 03/25/2005 4:39:50 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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Every vice principal should be deputized. Who can possibly argue with doing that much?!

As law enforcement officers, those vice principals then have the *option* to pack heat at schools.

Once this policy is implemented, then we go for more (e.g. all principals should be deputized, then all coaches, etc.).

Baby steps.

17 posted on 03/25/2005 4:49:31 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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This will, naturally, be misrepresented as "the NRA wants to make our schools into armed camps!" but in fact, allowing it means nothing much will actually change. Most teachers are neither experienced with firearms nor desire to become so.

But some are. And the possibility that a small percentage of teachers have a lockbox somewhere out of sight but available is a subtle but effective deterrent. As most of the states with concealed carry laws found out - it isn't the presence of firearms, but the potential of presence, that acts on the criminal mind.

18 posted on 03/25/2005 4:49:39 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Don't students have Second Amendment rights?

Not even the "law-abiding" students? ;-)

20 posted on 03/25/2005 4:52:23 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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Alright, this idea sucks.

I would trust the students with guns long before I would trust the teachers. Has anyone been keeping up with the news? Every week at least a dozen nutcases get arrested for something or other. And I can personally verify that not all my teachers have been entirely... stable.

The schools already have police officers and campus detectives. Why can't we just give them guns?


21 posted on 03/25/2005 4:52:37 PM PST by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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There are few teachers I would choose to arm, but I think the time has come for armed security in high schools.


26 posted on 03/25/2005 5:00:20 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers
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I have ALWAYS maintained that one of the UNSAFEST places to be is a school......it's like being a sitting duck....any idiot/crazy person who shows up with a gun will have their way for awhile.....I volunteered at grandson's school for a couple of years and HATED the "No Firearms" signs....it was an ugly reminder of what COULD happen.


32 posted on 03/25/2005 5:09:34 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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This post is a phenomenal test of American resolve to stop the threat of violence of any type in schoools.

Let teachers & admins carry if they want to and can pass the safety test. And if they don't care to do so, let others inside the school that do. That is the only way to prevent a Beslan tragedy here. Think of Beslan as a dry run.

Otherwise, teachers who are truly "bleeding-heart" liberals and anti-gun at all costs will become their own self-fufilling prophecy.... helpless, dead, bleeding liberals, along with the kids they indoctrinate into the culture of helpless tolerance and blind ignorance and hatred of their own country and its core values.

38 posted on 03/25/2005 5:17:21 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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Not a good idea.

Students are already beating up teachers in school. The last thing we need is them beating up teachers and stealing their guns.


45 posted on 03/25/2005 5:22:17 PM PST by Fido969
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There are a number of extremely logical choices at most high schools in this country. Those high schools that have a JROTC program are run by retired military officers with senior non-commissioned officers as assistant instructors. These folks will have some fairly extensive experience with firearms. These days most will have combat experience.

Then there will be folks like me. Not a combat vet, but qualified expert on every weapon in the infantry AND armor inventory. Former LEO and a current NRA Certified Firearms Instructor. IDPA Safety Officer and competitor.

I teach high school deep in the inner city and I've never had any problems. OTOH, I usually hook up with any ex-military at the schools where I've taught over the last 16 years and we've made loose plans on how to handle emergencies like this. They almost never include firearms. Against the law for us to have 'em so we don't. If I could....I would, but it would be better if the kids did not know who was carrying or had access to the guns because there are some fairly violent gangs that would target a school or a teacher JUST to get hold of the gun and just to say they did it and thus raise their status in gangbanger land.

62 posted on 03/25/2005 5:42:14 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Darned right. And while you're at it, legalize firearms for public education students, too.


67 posted on 03/25/2005 5:58:09 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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For a nano second I thought it said the NEA....then I woke up.

LOL!!

69 posted on 03/25/2005 6:02:52 PM PST by Osage Orange (Democrats....appear as confused as goats on AstroTurf.)
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81 posted on 03/25/2005 6:49:40 PM PST by John Lenin
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That's going a bit too far, however, armed security guards should definitely be going around schools, and they should have guns...


87 posted on 03/25/2005 7:15:08 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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If I were a teacher in the public indoctrination gulags I'd carry and nobody would know.


91 posted on 03/25/2005 8:16:24 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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