I will say this once....Freepers have very active imaginations. This is good in some cases, but utterly ridiculous in others.
The Schivo matter has been in the courts for how many years? It has been in front of how many judges? The purpose of judicial review is to uncover the facts. But when a judge does not rule the way a freeper thinks he should, then the conspiracies get started.
One judge making a bad decision is one thing...but when you have five separate courts reach the same conclusion, then the conspiracies need to be laid to rest.
bump to what you said - and to yor willingness to bear the flames for those that are convinced this is all a right to die plot and the husband tried to kill his wife and the court system is trying to help him cover up the evidence crowd.
The problem is Judge Greer is the only person to issue findings of facts. Judge Greer has conflicts of interests that should have led to his recusal. All of the other judges were appeal courts and as such did not take testimony or assess credibility of witnesses.
This is an extraordinary matter, however. Even lead to intervention by Congress, the Guv, and POTUS.
Yes, even though so many courts came to the same conclusion, and "followed the law" in so doing, this whole situation has something that perhaps the "law" cannot address, at least on the surface: a moral component.
Legislating morality has not been a successful venture in US history.
This is a discussion topic so if you do not want to be involved in it then go away. I for one am proud of freepers who choose not to roll over and pee on themselves by saying 'well, thats that'.
Only one judge has determined the 'facts' of this case, and that is Judge Greer in Clearwater. The rest only look to see whether the law was followed. No other court has looked at the 'facts'. NONE!
I'm glad people like you are speaking out. It gives me a better idea who to avoid on Free Republic.
Terri is currently in the process of being starved to death. No... no one's out to get her. But you can't argue with the fact that she is about to die at the hands of 'no one'.
Only one court hears the facts of the case. The rest hear on process. I point out that we have now have had dozens people freed from death row when the facts of the case are re-heard... and found that the original findings were flawed. Whittmore had the opportunity to do a de novo review of the case, but it seems he didn't avail himself of it. So only Greer has heard the facts so far. No conspiracy needed.
I don't understand your reasoning. Alot of judges looked at the Dred Scott case and Plessy v. Ferguson and the Koramatsu v. U.S., but that didn't make the decisions in those cases less abmominable than they were. More recently, multiple courts looked at the case of Gerald Amirault and repeatedly abrogated their duty to due justice in that case. So don't tell me that just because you get a bunch of lawyers in black robes looking at something, that they can't end up making a horrible mistake. Being a lawyer, you more than anyone else would should understand that and, as a result, you should have more of an open mind about the facts in this case.
Well, I don't buy into conspiracy, but I sure would appreciate someone explaining in laymans terms how this is 1) legally, being permitted, considering the public information that is out there includes no living will on Terri's behalf, and 2) morally being tolerated by a medical profession sworn to the hippocratic oath.
If the judges are making the legally correct decision, explain it to us. It certainly does not appear to be the RIGHT decision.
There was a discussion of this on Fox yesterday. Fred Barnes noted that while the case has been "seen" by 19 judges as is repeated over and over by the MSM, one judge (Greer) has made all the decisions. The other judges/ courts all ruled on the law that was put before them, not the essence of the case. Big difference!
Now be very careful ContemptofCourt ~ this is an emotional case/thread and we don't need anyone being realistic ~ the conspiracy theory fantasy lander's are on a roll and will not listen to anything that resembles the truth. *sigh*
what's the last line of your profile?........."live and let live........."
In other words, legislative and executive branches be damned. Judiciary rules! Is that right? Otherwise I don't understand your point.
Only one judge reviewed the facts: Green. The other ones only reviewed the PROCEDURE.
I guess you have never heard of an inmate on death row being found innocent after years of judges and courts making the "correct" decisions... It must be nice to have your own infallible court system... /s
"Vee ver only vollowing orders!"
Where have you been living? Judge Greer was not making his decisions on the facts of the case. He was making his decisions on what Michael Schiavo told him were the facts. If you had been following the facts being revealed by nurses and people who knew Terri, you would understand. Michael should never have been named guardian in the first place. Terri's parents, her brother and her sister are her family, not Michael. He undermined any attempt to rehibilitate Terri. He wouldn't even allow her to be taught how to swallow. And, we know she could swallow because she could swallow her siliva. If she could have learned to eat again by mouth there would have been no need for a feeding tube and Judge Greer couldn't have called her in a vegatative state. But then Michael wouldn't get any money to spend. Learn the facts buddy!