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Schiavo Appeal Has Been Filed
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Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; deathocrats; dothewillofgod; euthanasia; godhelpus; goodforgopin06; governmentinstrusion; judicaltyranny; judicialcoup; medicalmurder; meninblack; parentsrights; politcalgain; schiavo; t4; terri; terrischiavo
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To: cdefreese
It is one of the biggest myths.
The other judges didnt hear anyhing. They issues summary rulings/dimissals.
921
posted on
03/22/2005 10:36:24 AM PST
by
atruelady
(Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
To: offduty
It was for the judge to determine the credibility of the witnesses. And since Michael's brother and s-i-l have no dog in this fight, they look to be "independent" witnesses (which is not to say they are not biased...again, for the court to determine).
To: cdefreese
Greer is the only judge who heard the case on the "merits" or "evidence." The case kept being appealed, but appeals judges look not at "evidence" but at procedure. All the appeals courts merely said that Greer was correct and there was no procedural grounds to challenge his findings "of fact." so the U.S. Congress wanted a new trial to begin in the Tampa district court, but Congress did not clarify what it wanted, and this clintoid judge has essentially struck down the March 21 law.
923
posted on
03/22/2005 10:36:56 AM PST
by
Theodore R.
(Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns?)
To: Libertina
How could ANY person "rule" to starve another to death? They can't, legally. The charade is that the patient chose to starve to death, by saying "no extraordinary medical procedure." That term of art includes feeding tube.
924
posted on
03/22/2005 10:37:32 AM PST
by
Cboldt
To: northernlightsII
That would be up to Attorney General and potential governor Crist, another of those Pinellas-area "moderate" Republicans who has shown no interest in this case and marches lockstep with George W. Greer.
925
posted on
03/22/2005 10:38:17 AM PST
by
Theodore R.
(Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns?)
To: ContemptofCourt
First you answer my question with the argument that 'the Judge heard the arguments and decided'. Next your feign you don't understand my question. Finally, you repeat your first response. You have put your faith, and this woman's life, in the subjective opinion of one judge.
We disagree, and the 'evidence' I see and hear on the news that attests to this woman's awareness of family members around her is far more compelling than anything you've provided supporting the judge here. You are not up to defending his decision, and your correct if you think I didn't expect you to convince me, though I was sincere when I asked someone to try. I do not understand the culture of death being tolerated in this case.
926
posted on
03/22/2005 10:38:29 AM PST
by
Magnum44
(Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
To: Cboldt
Good point. But when the patient can't speak for herself, who has the right to make that decision. That's what this entire mess is about.
927
posted on
03/22/2005 10:38:40 AM PST
by
Jotmo
("Voon", said the mattress.)
To: atruelady
I know what you mean. We "escaped" liberal New Jersey to come down here - But it looks like liberal New Jersey followed us! This all disgusts me and I want to do something!
To: MineralMan
You decide for you, your wife makes her decision and you're more than likely safe to have your wishes carried out. Terri had no living will or durable power-of-attorney so her HINO will decide for her despite the fact that she was a practicing Catholic, etc. And his decision backed up by the FL courts is to starve her. Explain to me why any other husband who wishes to rid himself of his invalid wife who is unable to speak for herself and has no living will can't dump her in a FL hospice and have her starved? Why not a defective child since the parent is the child's guardian?
And you think this is fine?
929
posted on
03/22/2005 10:39:53 AM PST
by
penowa
To: Magnum44
Mag: The FL law put this case in the hands of that one judge and told him to make a decision. Tough beans if you don't like the decision he made.
To: 7.62 x 51mm
I turned my political activism towards ebay. First I tried to report it as a violation of ebay policy although I'm not sure. It came back with an invalid item #. I went to the official ebay site and entered the item # and it is still open.
Finally, I just entered a bunch of junk and got to the part where you can email them, so I did. I will watch and see if they allow the auction to stand.
You have to sign on to ebay to email them. You have to click on the help tab and jump through a lot of hoops until you get the email link.
931
posted on
03/22/2005 10:40:32 AM PST
by
Aliska
To: cdefreese
Greer determined what evidence would be allowed in the court record. Much of the 'pro' Terri/Scindler evidence was NOT allowed.
All subsequent courts and judges that looked into this case STIPULATED to (accepted) the Greer court's evidence without review or without hearing any further evidence. This is my understanding...
Sooooo, those 19(this is the # that liberals use--I don't know the truth of this!) judges have only reconsidered proceedural/legal issues NOT the evidence (or the evidence that was NOT allowed...)
To: Cboldt
The charade is that the patient chose to starve to death, by saying "no extraordinary medical procedure." That term of art includes feeding tube. Succinct. What's scary to me in all of this is that "extraordinary medical procedures" and being kept alive by "artificial means" now includes food and water. We should be concerned that the judiciary considers us all to be alive by "artificial means," and that someone with "custody" of us on paper can decide to starve us to death.
933
posted on
03/22/2005 10:41:36 AM PST
by
Types_with_Fist
(I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
To: atruelady
You'll love it here! Truly. (I'm a reformed northerner)
Just stay out of Travis county....
934
posted on
03/22/2005 10:41:39 AM PST
by
Zechariah_8_13
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
To: Boardwalk
Don't know that. Even if he had assualted her and that is what brought on the "heart attack" --- I've seen murderers take such trophies in some perversion of "love". At that point maybe he didn't yet want her fully dead.
935
posted on
03/22/2005 10:41:53 AM PST
by
bvw
To: Jotmo
Is there a particular reason why you're getting so edgy over this topic? I mean, Terri's life doesn't mean anything to you, does it, so why are you getting emotionally involved?
936
posted on
03/22/2005 10:41:59 AM PST
by
blurb
To: ContemptofCourt
Cboldt:
Keep in sharp focus that this is about TERRI's wishes. In that regard, Michael is only the holder of evidence that may or may not represent TERRI's wishes. ContemptofCourt: Wrong.
How so? Notice I didn't say Michael was the only witness, I said tha his role in the task of determining Terri's wishes is the role of a witness.
937
posted on
03/22/2005 10:42:05 AM PST
by
Cboldt
To: Cboldt
You are correct. Thanks for the clarification.
938
posted on
03/22/2005 10:42:35 AM PST
by
Jotmo
("Voon", said the mattress.)
To: nmh
Not to get this off focus, I just honestly believe that our prayers affirm our faith and God gave us the power and choice to make things happen.
I don't believe God will come down and fix things for Terri. He leaves the ability and choices up to us.
939
posted on
03/22/2005 10:42:43 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Dog Gone
940
posted on
03/22/2005 10:43:00 AM PST
by
Gritty
("...a woman's 'right to choose' what? To have her baby harmed by an assailant?-Rich Lowry)
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