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Schiavo Appeal Has Been Filed
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Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; deathocrats; dothewillofgod; euthanasia; godhelpus; goodforgopin06; governmentinstrusion; judicaltyranny; judicialcoup; medicalmurder; meninblack; parentsrights; politcalgain; schiavo; t4; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Theodore R.; nmh

Ah, but his new girlfriend, mother of his children, lover who would be considered his common-law wife in some states, and woman who wants to walk down the aisle with him, IS.


622 posted on 03/22/2005 8:56:41 AM PST by green pastures
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To: MineralMan

But in Florida if you fail to give food and water to your pet you could be fined $5,000 and spend time in jail. Looks to me like the people of Florida had been asleep while these laws were passed.


623 posted on 03/22/2005 8:56:50 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: keysguy

If you don't know how SC would vote, you're not thinking.


624 posted on 03/22/2005 8:58:12 AM PST by penowa
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To: lugsoul

He swore in Court that he faked his Nobel Prize nomination.


625 posted on 03/22/2005 8:58:21 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Nick Danger

How did the Schindlers' lawyer screw up?


626 posted on 03/22/2005 8:58:50 AM PST by nimbysrule (qque ex)
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To: lsee

Thank you. It's going to be a long, tough road, I fear.


627 posted on 03/22/2005 8:59:15 AM PST by MainFrame65
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To: PhiKapMom

"But in Florida if you fail to give food and water to your pet you could be fined $5,000 and spend time in jail. Looks to me like the people of Florida had been asleep while these laws were passed."

Apples and oranges. You can take a pet to the vet and have it killed without punishment. In fact, I suspect you can kill your own pet in Florida.

Human beings are different. We do not inject human beings with drugs to kill them. We do, sometimes, withhold treatement under certain circumstances.

You cannot compare animal abuse laws and end of life laws for humans. You can have your pet put down anytime you wish, ill or not.


628 posted on 03/22/2005 9:00:32 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Nick Danger
Thanks for saying it that way. After reading the ruling from Whitmore, it seemed apparent that the Schindler's attorney made a poor argument.

Unfortunately, you cannot go into to court and make an argument based on "common sense," or "the right thing".

629 posted on 03/22/2005 9:00:55 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: MarMema

Which is why, I believe, that the 11th court will not come to her defense. It will only make THEM weaker.


630 posted on 03/22/2005 9:01:00 AM PST by Collier
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To: Nick Danger

How did he blow it?

If you know, have you tried to contact the lawyers to tell them where they went wrong?


631 posted on 03/22/2005 9:01:23 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: penowa

A Bluebeard for our times. No mystery writer, not even Christie or Conan Doyle, could make this one up.


632 posted on 03/22/2005 9:01:44 AM PST by nimbysrule (qque ex)
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To: yldstrk
"This family has got to be stopped. The Schiavos are clearly motivated to kill and it has not been properly clarified in the courts. What were the ages of the parents and the circumstances of the starvations of the Schiavo parents?"

I don't remember what thread it was on.

BTW, Michael is NOT alone in doing this.

Starving a person to death is COMMON practice in terminal situations.

We didn't know this. My husband's sister who is married and lived in Fort Meyers Florida was starved to death. She was terminal however they SPED up her death. She made the mistake of checking into Hope Hospice in Fort Meyers. She had about a month or so left and saw the toll it was taking on her husband and checked herself in.

BIG MISTAKE. Her Hospice nurse who visited her at home was horrified. She KNOWS what they do there. She LEFT A PATIENT she was visiting and went to Hope Hospice. It was too late. My husbands sister was still walking, talking and using the bathroom on her own when she checked in. She decided she wanted out of there. She was BEGGING her husband to take her home so that she could die there and this was a mistake. She tried to get out of bed too quickly and collapsed. She freaked out and the nurse there "sedated" her.

her husband thought being "sedated" was just calmed down so he could check her out of there. He met with her doctor and was told what "sedated" meant. She never moved or spoke again. She couldn't even blink her eyes and he REFUSED to discharge her and besides he thought she only had a day or two to live.

Her "sedation" took place on Wednesday. She finally passed away on late Monday afternoon the following week. She had atleast four days to linger WITHOUT water and without food. ALL she had was a vile the size of a lipstick holder attached to her vein with just enough "pain relief and other chemicals" to sped up her death. It was ALL just below the legal limit of murder. They have it down to a science and it doesn't matter what YOU have to say about it ONCE you are checked in.

I was AWFUL and there was not a DAM thing we could do about it. We discovered to our horror that this is TYPICAL and the NORM. They at hospice, determine when you should die. Granted she was terminal BUT she still had life and functioning - used the bathroom on her own, walked, talked, ate food and coherent but that didn't matter. The room was needed for someone else.
Here is her obit.: VIVIAN LAW GRISWOLD 2004-12-16 Vivian Law Griswold, age 61, of Ft. Myers, passed away in the afternoon of December 13, 2004 at Hope Hospice South. She was born on October 4, 1943 in China; as an infant her family moved to Hong Kong. Vivian left Hong Kong in 1994 and moved with her husband to Ft. Myers; she received her United States citizenship in 1977. Vivian was a successful businesswoman most of her adult life in Hong Kong. She enjoyed playing golf at the Fiddlesticks Country Club in Ft. Myers. Vivian was a loving woman who was admired by all that knew her and was always concerned about others rather than herself. She was very devoted to her husband and her family who had their lives fulfilled by the way she shared her love and wisdom with them. She is survived her husband of 34 years, Donald B. Griswold, her brothers, Jimmy Law of San Francisco, CA, Ricky Law of Branchburg, NJ and Boling Law of Hong Kong, her sisters, May Chu of Hong Kong and Venus Lee of Soquel, CA, four nieces, three nephews, her stepchildren, David Griswold of Fruit Cove, FL and Lori Wagner of Haywood, VA, four grandchildren and one great granddaughter. She was the sister of the late Clara Chan. A Memorial Service will be conducted on Monday, December 20, 2004 at 1:30 PM in The Church of the Cross, Daniels Parkway at 13500 Freshman Lane, Ft. Myers. In lieu of flowers, memorial gifts may be sent in her memory to Hope Hospice, 9470 Health Park Circle, Ft. Myers, FL 33908. Arrangements by the Ft. Myers Memorial Gardens Funeral Home, (239) 936-0555 You don't believe me ... here's the link and look it up here: http://news-press.net/obitlegal/obituaries/search.php I am not lying about anything. Death is big business in "God's waiting room", Florida. I was personally appalled when her husband had money sent to Hope Hospice. It is a money making death factory that is cruel.
633 posted on 03/22/2005 9:02:03 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Theodore R.
We should tell the Germans that we regret fighting the Nazis because many of their "values" have now become "American values.

BRAVO!!! Best post I have seen in some time now...

634 posted on 03/22/2005 9:02:16 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: MineralMan

So, you want to hold this "kill her" position AND be treated nice? It don't work that way. This is a life-and-death matter.
Scarlet letters for those pro-death folks.


635 posted on 03/22/2005 9:02:33 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Nick Danger

I am starting to agree with you. Get a new guy, a real heavyweight,this lawyer seems amateurish. You can't lose that much ans still stay on.


636 posted on 03/22/2005 9:02:36 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: MarMema
New Bumper Stickers:

"DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE KILLED HELEN KELLER"

"NO HOPE FOR TERRI, IF THE PRESIDENT WERE KERRY" (This is providing she is allowed to live)

"DEMOCRATS WOULD NEVER STARVE A TERRORIST TO DEATH"

"MORE RIGHTS FOR DEATH ROW INMATES THAN FOR LOVING PARENTS"

637 posted on 03/22/2005 9:02:55 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Halls

I predict that Terri will die because the legal proceedings will not pan out until it's too late. Our system is too screwed up right now to save Terri from the men in black robes. But I also predict that she will become a martyr and her name a rallying cry for those who cherish life, and new legislation will be written to save others who, like her, have no voice of their own. Her death shows us that we are not as civilized as a nation as some like to think.


638 posted on 03/22/2005 9:02:57 AM PST by Blowtorch
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To: northernlightsII

Me too, hell get a PETA lawyer! Those guys know what they are doing!


639 posted on 03/22/2005 9:03:38 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: jjmcgo
I am not advocating the murder of anyone, and neither are the people of whom you write.

The ability to come up with pithy quotes does not impart virtue either.

Address the issue itself.

640 posted on 03/22/2005 9:03:42 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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