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"TODAY MARCH 18TH STARVATION DAY #1 FOR TERRI SCHIAVO...FREEP FOR HER LIFE" (Thread 2)
various ^ | 3/17/2005 | various

Posted on 03/17/2005 5:58:41 PM PST by tutstar

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Reform4Bush

Terri is lying there KNOWING fully that someone is TRYING TO KILL HER. Can anyone imagine that fear and she cannot get up and run away because she is disabled!!!! She is trapped and the killers are the state.


2,541 posted on 03/19/2005 7:43:40 AM PST by floriduh voter ( www.theempirejournal.com BUSTING TERRI'S BAD JUDGE EVERY DAY.....)
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To: tutstar

Yep, a bio-ethicist is someone who would stick up for someone who did all this AND MORE:

Click and read:
POLICE REPORT: http://www.theempirejournal.com/SPPD_Police_Report_022590.pdf

PATTERN OF DOMESTIC ABUST: http://www.theempirejournal.com/021505_pattern_of_domestic_abuse.htm

Michael Schiavo is a sadist who euthanized Terri's two cats, and far worse, admitted on the Larry King show that he had his parents starved to death when they were sick with cancer, etc., and abused Terri before the collapse, and continues to abuse her.

He won't allow her to have therapy to talk (she can say a few words), he won't allow her to have therapy to swallow better (she CAN swallow soft foods), he turns her family's pictures around in her room, won't allow her to go outside for some fresh air, won't allow sunlight in her room, won't allow her see the cute little dogs that are brought around to cheer patients, won't allow her teeth to be brushed, etc.

Michael Schiavo, Terri's estranged husband, melted down her wedding ring in order to make jewelry for himself.

He also killed her beloved cats, even after Terri's parents offered to take care of them.

http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/lkl1.htm

CALLER: Yes. Does it bother you that the death is so slow? Maybe Dr. Kevorkian-style would be a faster, more peaceful way?

SCHIAVO: Removing somebody's feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die. Probably the second better way to die, being the first being an aneurysm.

And it doesn't bother me at all. I've seen it happen.

I had to do it with my own parents.


2,542 posted on 03/19/2005 7:46:25 AM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Saundra Duffy; pc93; Ohioan from Florida; cyn; Republic; tutstar; Chocolate Rose; FR_addict; ...
We must tell the Florida Legislature and the U.S. Congres that TERRI DECLARED TWICE ON MARCH 18TH THAT SHE WANTED TO LIVE... If they kill her now, if it wasn't already criminal enough before, IS COLD BLOODED FIRST DEGREE MURDER.

TERRI DECLARED TWICE YESTERDAY THAT SHE WANTED TO LIVE. Can they still allow her to be starved and dehydrated to death NOW??????

2,543 posted on 03/19/2005 7:47:33 AM PST by floriduh voter ( www.theempirejournal.com BUSTING TERRI'S BAD JUDGE EVERY DAY.....)
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To: All; Scoop 1; phenn; pc93; floriduh voter; cyn; tutstar; TBP; Ohioan from Florida; ...

Gov. Bush leads unprecedented lobbying effort

Behind the scenes, Gov. Jeb Bush and Sen. Mel Martinez enlisted conservatives' help to create a formidable lobbying force to keep Terri Schiavo alive.

BY FRANK DAVIES, ERIKA BOLSTAD AND MARC CAPUTO

ebolstad@herald.com


Council lobbyist

Less than 24 hours before Terri Schiavo had her feeding tube removed, Gov. Jeb Bush knew the effort to keep her alive was slipping away.

So the brother of the president -- and a prime mover of the 2003 legislation that prolonged Schiavo's life -- called Florida's newest U.S. senator, Mel Martinez, with an urgent plea.

''I'm not sure we can get it done here in Florida,'' Martinez quoted Bush as saying just after a new Schiavo measure stalled in the Florida Legislature. ``Do whatever you can federally.''

What transpired over the ensuing hours was a testament to the influence of the governor and religious conservatives, and will be remembered as one of the most extraordinary moves in the halls of U.S. Congress ever seen on behalf of a single person who, until recently, was little-known to many in the country.

Meeting in the dark of night, the C-SPAN cameras off, leaders in the House and Senate hit upon the idea to stall the court-ordered removal of her feeding tube by issuing congressional subpoenas to Schiavo herself, her husband and some of her doctors and caretakers.

GOP DISAPPOINTED

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and House Speaker Dennis Hastert said Friday evening that they were disappointed with Friday's court decisions allowing the feeding tube to be removed, and they vowed to work through the weekend to prolong Schiavo's life.

The dizzying flurry of congressional activity is largely a response to a relentless push by conservative Christian groups -- using e-mail ''action alerts'' and persistent lobbying -- and the personal involvement of Frist and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

''I've never seen anything like this in Congress over an individual case,'' said Jayd Henricks, lobbyist for the Family Research Council, one of the groups battling to keep Schiavo alive by challenging state court orders.

Even as Congress struggled with the federal budget, Medicaid and other national issues, Republican leaders worked well into early morning Friday to intervene on behalf of the brain-damaged woman in a Florida hospice.

They passed bills, issued subpoenas, interrupted a debate on the annual budget, scheduled hearings and held press conferences, all designed to prevent the court-ordered removal of a feeding tube from Schiavo, who has been in a vegetative state for 15 years.

The unusual effort culminated early Friday. The House and Senate had passed different bills to give Schiavo rights in federal court, but most House members had left the capital before the differences could be reconciled.

Top GOP leaders scrambled ''quickly and creatively'' to find a way to block the removal of the tube from Schiavo without legislation, Henricks said.

A Senate staffer said ''the leaders and lawyers were looking at everything, trying to freeze the situation in place and buy time'' so legislation could be crafted and sent to President Bush in the next few days. What they devised -- the subpoena -- has generated new controversy about how Congress operates in a controversial case such as Schiavo's.

Schiavo's plight began dominating Congress at 2:59 p.m. Thursday, when the Florida Senate voted 21-16 to defeat an amendment designed to give Schiavo's parents another chance to delay the removal of the tube.

The previous night, The House had passed a broad bill that would make sweeping changes in federal law, giving federal courts jurisdiction in any case involving incapacitated people who have not given advanced instructions about whether they should be offered sustenance.

HOPE DWINDLES

But the Senate balked at the broader House bill, instead favoring a so-called ''private relief bill'' that would have applied exclusively to Schiavo and would have not have altered federal law in other cases.

Several senators objected to the House bill, which the Senate refused to take up, and passed their own narrowly focused bill Thursday afternoon.

The refusal to take up the Republican bill angered House GOP leaders: With differing bills, there was nothing for President Bush to sign to prolong Schiavo's life. The House and Senate convened a short time later.

Speaker Hastert and DeLay remained talking on the House floor.

''I did see the speaker and the House majority leader anguished, looking for ways for us to help,'' said U.S. Rep. Lincoln Díaz-Balart, a Miami Republican.

They cooked up a deal: The House Government Reform Committee, which had just held 11 hours of hearings on the issue of steroids in baseball, would launch an inquiry into the case and issue subpoenas to doctors and hospice administrators to stop them from disconnecting Schiavo's tube. ''This inquiry should give hope to Terri, her parents and friends and the million of people praying for her,'' Hastert said. ``This fight is not over.''

Committee members from both parties said they were not aware of the subpoenas until they were notified Friday morning.

''This all happened so fast, even the committee staff did not know,'' said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla. "This has just been thrown at the entire committee and Congress.''

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/11176614.htm


2,544 posted on 03/19/2005 7:48:34 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: Sun

I know it! It's scary to think what the future holds.
It's absolutely unbelievable that all this is happening!


2,545 posted on 03/19/2005 7:48:59 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: All; floriduh voter; pc93; phenn

The photos were taken at Woodside Hospice yesterday

2,546 posted on 03/19/2005 7:53:43 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: pc93; djreece; All

***), pc93 wrote:
Plus Dr. Cranford was paid to make his diagnosis and he lied in court. The day before on video he praised Terri for following his commands, etc. then in court he said she is PVS. He lied to the court and that is a crime. It is also a federal crime because he crossed state lines and was paid.***



PC93, what can we do to get the word out about Dr Cranford. Your post is very POWERFUL and should be made available to the media. Especially since Dr Ron Cranford was involved in the * so called * TIED BREAKER which Greer used to RULE for the Removing TERRI'S FOOD & WATER (feeding tube).

Does Mr Gibbs ever use the facts in your post, as a talking point, with the MEDIA??

Does anyone have a list of Talking Points, to use like FELOS is doing, with the Media or on other message boards. We have to beat these people at their own game. They are spinning LIES. We can tell the TRUTH and turn the tide of public opinion. The public, for the most part, is still in the dark about Terri's condition, and other facts in the case.

Also, MSNBC is running a poll about Terri today. HINO is winning about 2/3. Please Freeper MSNBC. I don't trust those who run these type of polls on MSM, but I still vote in them, on behave of Terri.



2,547 posted on 03/19/2005 7:56:48 AM PST by Pepper777 (Terri Should be ALLOWED TO HAVE THERAPY - Not Death by Starvation)
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To: phenn

You have freepmail!


2,548 posted on 03/19/2005 7:56:53 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: MomwithHope

That's the problem. There doesn't seem to be any room around it. Why can't we get something organized where a lot of people can attend. A park in the area or something.

Maybe on Good Friday or the day before Easter.


2,549 posted on 03/19/2005 7:57:23 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: curiousmind
"What you witnessed yesterday was the overthrow of the Federal Government by the church of scientology and Judge Greer, who effectively became the judicial and legislative and executive branch of the government."

I wish more people were aware of this. It seems Clearwater is a hornet's nest of demonic activity. Terri is a sacrifice to their "master."

2,550 posted on 03/19/2005 7:58:51 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (Terri's battle is NOT against flesh and blood....)
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To: All; Scoop 1; phenn; pc93; floriduh voter; cyn

MICHAEL SCHIAVO BEGAN WORK AT THE PINELLAS COUNTY JAIL AS A NURSE ON OCTOBER 11, 2004


Weeks before he left the Sheriff's Office, [Sheriff] Rice said, he hired Michael Schiavo for a job as a nurse in the county jail, near Largo. He began work Oct. 11.

"I hired him," Rice said, "but I never saw him. I don't know him. It's hard to find good nurses, and he was right at the top of the stack of applications."

While Rice hired Schiavo, he said, he is sure he acted on the recommendation of one of his assistants.

Rice said he and Judge Greer are friends, and he acknowledged making a TV ad and was on the hospice board several years ago, as an honorary member because he was sheriff.

Rice was one of eight Republicans in the state House who voted against a bill that would have prevented the withholding of food and water to incapacitated patients who did not make their intentions clear beforehand.

"I tried to vote my conscience and not necessarily do what's popular," Rice said. "I wasn't counting votes. I think the Republicans might have misread this thing."

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/19/Tampabay/Schiavo_Web_rumor_peg.shtml


2,551 posted on 03/19/2005 7:59:22 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: floriduh voter
"pls pray for Terri's mom too."

How's she holding up? I keep thinking about her and the rest of her family. I can't imagine going through what they are, and for so long. But I've been praying that they will feel the Lord's arms around them holding them close. Have been praying that for Terri, also.

2,552 posted on 03/19/2005 7:59:29 AM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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To: amdgmary
Meeting in the dark of night, the C-SPAN cameras off, leaders in the House and Senate hit upon the idea to stall the court-ordered removal of her feeding tube by issuing congressional subpoenas to Schiavo herself, her husband and some of her doctors and caretakers.

Terri is a federal witness.

President Bush, use the US Marshals to protect her! It's their duty!

2,553 posted on 03/19/2005 8:00:12 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: All; Scoop 1; phenn; floriduh voter; cyn

TERRI ON MARCH 18

Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, heard the news while waiting in a shop across the street from the hospice. They remained composed, but broke down several hours later, Malanowski said.

By nightfall, Terri remained in her chair.

She wore a pink ribbed shirt and had a stuffed animal, a tiger cat, propped in her arms.

A radio played softly in the background. Someone drew a sheet over Terri to warm her in the chilly room.

Terri's parents remain hopeful.

"We honestly think the tube will be put back in a few days, so we don't need long goodbyes," said family attorney Barbara Weller.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/19/Tampabay/Terri_Schiavo_s_room_.shtml


2,554 posted on 03/19/2005 8:01:56 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: amdgmary; phenn; All

At The Empire Journal

http://www.theempirejournal.com/berlin_retort.htm

ITS ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS PEOPLE!


2,555 posted on 03/19/2005 8:03:17 AM PST by Scoop 1
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To: Scoop 1

WOW SCOOP! Your best yet!

http://www.theempirejournal.com/0319051_former_sheriff_rice_unea.htm


2,556 posted on 03/19/2005 8:03:58 AM PST by texasstar
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To: floriduh voter

Yes!! Got to do it!


2,557 posted on 03/19/2005 8:09:42 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: amdgmary; Scoop 1
SHERIFF RICE SAYS THE EMPIRE JOURNAL ON WEB IS SCAPEGOATING HIM AS A VILLAIN...

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/19/Tampabay/Schiavo_Web_rumor_peg.shtml

IMO, Rice is covering for GREER, THE SUPER-VILLAIN IN THIS SINISTER PLOT.

By the way, Bo Gritz was arrested this morning for crossing the police line with a citizen's arrest I guess for Hospice and for trying to take water to Terri.

2,558 posted on 03/19/2005 8:10:07 AM PST by floriduh voter ( www.theempirejournal.com BUSTING TERRI'S BAD JUDGE EVERY DAY.....)
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To: All
Someone in DC please get President Bush to act on this!

Since 1789, U.S. Marshals and their Deputies have provided many different services, from taking the census to protecting the President. Today, the Marshals Service is responsible for providing protection for the federal judiciary, transporting federal prisoners, protecting endangered federal witnesses and managing assets seized from criminal enterprises. In addition, the men and women of the Marshals Service pursue and arrest 55 percent of all federal fugitives.

link

2,559 posted on 03/19/2005 8:10:19 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: amdgmary
"But I'm wondering what happens if they ignore the bill in Florida."

The bill is dead in Florida. Senator James King led the campaign to kill it."

I was talking about the US Bill, not the Florida one. It is so watered down that the Judge may ignore that one too. They changed "Shall" to "May" and Judge Greer is going to say that a bill subverting his authority is unconstitutional or something.

I wouldn't have believed this a few days ago, but I never would have believed a lowly circuit court Judge could defy the US Congress and not honor subpoenas issued by the Senate and the House.

What is Congress going to do then? Do what Bush and his brother are doing, sitting on their hands and saying they don't have the authority?
2,560 posted on 03/19/2005 8:11:23 AM PST by FR_addict
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