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I don't know exactly where the line should be drawn, so I obviously I'm not going to advocate specifics. Originally I was against the AWB extension, primarily because I didn't trust the original writers and backers of it, and from what I've read it was excessive, overly broad, and a perfect venue for future abuse of gun rights. But I also don't get worked up if some machine guns or virtual equivalents do get restricted. And the more I read rants from raving "Don't you dare ban my right to nukes" purist-types, the more I think perhaps opposing the AWB extension might have been the wrong move. Maybe, maybe not.

You realize that full auto AK's are already extremely restricted I hope. In all likelyhood, if this was an AK style it was semi-auto. I'm sure you can't come up with a good reason to ban those.

Machine guns have been banned since the National Firearms Act of 1934.

Only under heavy scrutiny and licensing can law enforcement purchase automatic firearms, or serious collectors possess them.

But machine guns and their "virtual equivalents" have been all but banned since the National Firearms Act of 1934. All that we have left are guns that look like machine guns that cannot be legally converted to fire full auto. All the AWB was was a ban on "ugly, evil-looking guns." The BATFE siezes *parts kits* (these are just an assembly of parts, missing the significant critical parts needed to make it a functional firearm - like the frame or receiver, and usually a couple more) that *might* be *"somewhere, possibly, if we superglued everything together and tied things together with zip ties and beat on it with a hammer while pulling the trigger while slamming it on the table, capable of firing more than one round per trigger pull". Don't even get me started on what they do if you have a defective weapon that has the firing pin get stuck. There has only been one murder committed in the US with a legal fully automatic weapon since 1934. It was a crooked Miami cop who appropriated his department issued weapon while doing drug deals. Chances are that this weapon will be an illegally modified weapon, illegally possessed, and illegally used. How is more legislation supposed to stop this again?

But I also don't get worked up if some machine guns or virtual equivalents do get restricted.

Do you know what a "machine gun" is? Do you know what "automatic" and "semiautomatic" mean? Do you know the difference between a true "assault weapon" and what the media would like you to believe?

If you are simply ignorant, just say so. It's better than typing out nonsense about a semi-automatic rifle being the "virtual equivalent" to a machine gun.

Ok I see now you have bought into the idea that since the APB went away there are no restrictions on machine guns. This is nonsense. Real fully automatic weapons have been restricted for a long long time. I don't recall the date but I think it was since the '30s. The AWB was a joke that only served to raise the cost of some types of semiauto weapons and remove some features that were useless to a criminal anyway (like bayonet lugs). If you think we are short on restrictions for machine guns you are misinformed.