Posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:03 PM PST by jan in Colorado
In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.
Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:
"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)
And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:
"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)
Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.
Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''
Sounds good so far.
But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.
This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.
Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?
I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'
In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.
This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.
So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.
The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.
Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.
The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.
My profile ALSO shows I have been here since November, 2000.
So if I'm a "TROLL" you must be too.
I can hardly believe how ignorant and anemic your attacks are.
No, YOU give us a break. You apologize for Islam--and know nothing of it.
I got to learn of Islam in 2 years stationed in Saudi---and it was a real eye-opener. My knowledge come form being there---and hearing the "teachings" up close and for real.
The conversations I had with even average Saudis were enough to raise the hair on the back your neck.
The proof of what they said came on 9/11---in spades.
If you are incapable of reasonble discussion, in a reasonable tone of voice, don't discuss. Your rants are tiresome and contrarian.
You haven't brought a SINGLE credible point or idea as to what should be done to this forum (sorry, calling others extremists does not count) You just desire to sow discord.
Thst my final word to you--you are unworthy of any further attention as that is all you seem to crave.
I read the Quran the first time when I was living in the MidEast.
I studied it after 9-11 trying to understand "WHY"?
There is NO redeeming value in the Quran. It's a compiliation of hate, anger, lust, greed, torture, maiming and death.
As a Christian, you obviously haven't studied the Bible, either. There is another Book attached to the OT that teaches love.
Where is that attachment to the Quran?
Right again, Fred...they just don't get it, never will.
I've got to call it a night.
Where did I EVER "apologize for Islam"?
Show me the post you liar.
The TRUTH is I said I believe Islam is a FALSE RELIGION that leads people to Hell.
Read the thread. You don't even know what you are arguing with me about.
ONWARD, CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS TO THE LAST CRUSADE!
One of THE biggest problems we,as Americans have,is that the Saudis have managed to pay for and run ALL of the Islamic schools and prison ministries here and the Wahabbists (sp?) are the worst of the worst Muslims,in that they hammer away At the vilest parts of the Koranic teachings. THIS REALLY IS A DEATH CULT ! To ignore the facts is childish and fatal.
Time for a laugh. Have you seen this:
http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=55500
Nighty night.........pleasant dreams,dear friend.
"I read the Quran the first time when I was living in the MidEast.
Same here--a real dilly, isn't it? I rmember asking a few of the "learned locals" about what some of the Quran really meant---and the anwer was scary.
I can't help but notice that the Contrarian amongst us likes to in one second call islam a "false religon", but then goes right into that it's covered by Freedon Of Religion.
I never saw where the Constitution covered cults.
And no, he has has avoided the Good Book. At least the biggest parts of it.
So much the pity........
AMEN!
Long Live Broadsword!
How would you know?
If you knew ANYTHING about the Bible you would know it says God HATES those who make false accusations against others AS YOU HAVE DONE HERE.
Who do you think you are?
I've already said that I believe the Bible and consider Islam a false religion.
Yet because I don't agree with those saying we should wipe out Islam from America you make all these baseless accusations.
Incredible.
Oh my word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NP:
Excellent point, but some do not wish to think that Islam is other than a death cult. Some fall for the hype and call it the Religion of Peace, when it is the Religion (or CULT) of Pieces.
YHow many 9/11's must we endure before they get a clue? it's likely more than we can bear, so we must keep trying.
You should do God a favor and tell people you are an atheist.
Just a suggestion.
Thanks for the laugh!
My screen is now wearing a cup of tea, LOL!
Another Green Froggie for you!
Like it? That's how they teach them to fly.
SHOW us all ONE SINGLE POST where I "apologize for Islam".
The truth is I have consistantly said that I believe Islam is a false religion that leads people to hell.
You sir are a liar.
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