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Oldest biped skeleton discovered - new evolution record, 1.2 millions added in one day
http://cooltech.iafrica.com/science/421933.htm ^ | Mon, 07 Mar 2005

Posted on 03/07/2005 3:19:42 PM PST by Truth666

A joint Ethiopian-US team of palaeontologists announced on Saturday they had discovered the world's oldest biped skeleton to be unearthed so far, dating it to between 3.8 and four million years old.

"This is the world's oldest biped," Bruce Latimer, director of the natural history museum in Cleveland, Ohio, told a news conference in the Ethiopian capital, adding that "it will revolutionise the way we see human evolution".

The bones were found three weeks ago in Ethiopia's Afar region, at a site some 60 kilometres from Hadar where Lucy, one of the first hominids, was discovered in 1974. Researchers at the site in northeast Ethiopia have in all unearthed 12 hominid fossils, of which parts of one skeleton were discovered.


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To: Joee
IF THE ANKLE BONE IS CONNECTED TO THE LEG BONE

Tsk Tsk, everyone knows the ankle bone is connected to the drinking bone. ...It's a good country song but I cant remember the singer

41 posted on 03/07/2005 5:17:31 PM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: Zhangliqun

The answer to most of your questions is natural selection.


42 posted on 03/07/2005 5:31:37 PM PST by Coyoteman
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To: Zhangliqun
Something that maybe even has a partially developed moral sense?

You mean moonboy's followers???

43 posted on 03/07/2005 5:35:37 PM PST by evolved_rage (OLAP SCHMOLAP)
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To: SwankyC

Tracy Byrd (No relation to the shriveled-up little kkk/nazi senator from West Virginia).


44 posted on 03/07/2005 5:38:59 PM PST by NC Native ("Bombing begins in five minutes"... Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Zhangliqun
Everything evolved from single celled organisms, and yet there are still single celled organisms. Why? Because the ecological niche that supported those organisms is still there. We evolved due to genetic recombination that moved along a little at at a time. Just because one member of a species mutates doesn't mean that all will mutate. Some of the population will stay the same, and provided that niche still remains, the original species will as well. The intermediate steps along the chain from apes to humans either interbred or were outcompeted by modern humans. There are arguments for each case.

I am a scientist working in biochemistry. We mutate small sections of DNA, insert that fragment into a circular piece of DNA called a plasmid, and then insert that plasmid into a variety of cells and observe the results. We often use antibiotic resistance genes to select for bacteria which have taken up the plasmid. These resistance genes themselves illustrate random evolution and how genetic recombination can produce a more competitive organism. Also, I am a Christian and I believe that God created life and mapped out the whole thing.
45 posted on 03/07/2005 5:50:37 PM PST by mysterio
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To: theFIRMbss

"That would be stupid!
They BEAM the bones underground
with a transporter!"

I feel so stupid, now that you've pointed out such an elemenal error on my part.


46 posted on 03/07/2005 6:25:27 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: printhead
I'm sure that you will know how to decode these "unearthed 12 hominid fossils" after reading my explanation about the life cycle of these frauds and their audience, i.e. the average idiot and the scientific spirit ...
Australian Scientist Disputes 'Hobbit' Findings - and Truth666 exposes the hoax in detail
47 posted on 03/07/2005 6:34:20 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: js1138
"Do you have any idea what percentage of "junk" DNA has a known function?"

My guess is that 100% of it has a known function. It's just not known by human science. But no, I don't know, but I know that scientists keep finding more of it has a function than earlier believed.

And which creation scientists are at work decoding the function of the rest Name some of them.

There's a whole list of creation scientists including several biologists at the ICR website. However, most scientists that believe in creation don't advertise it because of the anti-creation bias and the militant evolutionists.

In fact, I wouldn't tell you of any that weren't openly publishing it, because of the militant attitude of the evolutionists. There are people who make it their life's work to harrass the employers of creationists in science disciplines.

48 posted on 03/07/2005 6:34:48 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: FastCoyote
Geologists are so stupid, they can't even find oil.

OIL!...ain't that fossil fuel?
49 posted on 03/07/2005 8:00:25 PM PST by frankenMonkey
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To: Zhangliqun
Wouldn't we have some primate like that living somewhere in the world, with which we could communicate and reason on a level not quite human but advanced significantly beyond the other primates?

There were...but we (our fully human ancestors) ate them.

50 posted on 03/07/2005 8:39:40 PM PST by MRMEAN (You are a monkey's uncle)
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To: Truth666

YEC INTREP - On what do they base the age?


51 posted on 03/07/2005 9:54:38 PM PST by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: Zhangliqun; Coyoteman

If we evolved from monkeys and apes, why are there still monkeys and apes? Or better yet, why aren't there creatures on the earth right now that are in a state of evolution a quarter of the way, half-way, or 3/4ths of the way between an ape and a human? Wouldn't we have some primate like that living somewhere in the world, with which we could communicate and reason on a level not quite human but advanced significantly beyond the other primates? Something that maybe even has a partially developed moral sense? Or did evolution just suddenly stop?

And to top it off, what are we evolving into? Can we stop it? Do we want to stop it? Is this the best that evolution can do? If there is life on Mars, would we even recognize what it looks like?


52 posted on 03/07/2005 11:28:55 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Truth666

The E world is in the midst of a crisis. Their theory is not the only one on the market these days and that means a money crunch.


53 posted on 03/07/2005 11:36:34 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Truth666
I just explained in detail how these frauds are now staged in a daily basis

Actually, you just exposed a lot of your misunderstandings and ignorance of science. But if you want to feel like you somehow accomplished something, don't let me stop you.

54 posted on 03/07/2005 11:50:15 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
It is time to require that people stop basing science upon the presumption that evolution occurred,

How exactly do you plan to "require" this? Torture and burning at the stake, perhaps?

And evolution is not a "presumption", it is the very well-established theory which was developed by following the evidence.

it is one theory

It is an extremely well-supported theory, and there are no credible opposing hypotheses, much less any competing theories in the scientific sense.

and should not be the foundation for all science.

It isn't, just most of biology.

It is misleading.

In what way? Be precise and provide support.

55 posted on 03/07/2005 11:53:12 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Truth666

Two Evolutionists playing Poker...

"Hey Bert, I'll raise you a couple of miilion years on the fossil record."

"All right Edgar...I can beat that though. I'll double your bet."

etc. etc.


56 posted on 03/07/2005 11:55:30 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: elephantlips
Will this turn out to be the rest of the "hog?" Remembering the tooth that became a display, a civilization and way of life. So much from so little.

You're repeating a creationist lie. Congratulations, they suckered you in.

Next time, try learning about science from actual scientific sources. Trying to "learn" about science from creationist sources is like trying to "learn" about conservatism from Michael Moore movies -- and for exactly the same reasons.

57 posted on 03/07/2005 11:58:46 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Truth666

The remains of the world's oldest biped? Nah, it can't be-Robert Byrd is still walking around.


58 posted on 03/08/2005 12:02:11 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: buffyt
I saw a show on TV the other night about fossils. They had rocks that had been "carbon dated" to be 140million years old.

Nice try -- you either grossly misunderstood whatever the show actually said, or you were watching some incompetent creationist video.

Carbon dating only produces results in the 0 to 50,000 year range.

Would you care to retract your bogus claim now?

Broke some of them open and one had a modern battery in it, one had a newish style hammer, and I forgot what the other one had.

Yeah. Sure. We believe you.

The point was that carbon dating is NOT accurate.

Actually, the point is that either you or your source (or both) are either lying or completely incompetent. Neither actually demonstrates that carbon dating is inaccurate.

59 posted on 03/08/2005 12:02:20 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: taxesareforever
More Creationist ignorance. We didn't evolve from apes; we're related to them.
60 posted on 03/08/2005 12:04:27 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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